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May 5, 2007
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Fix CS3's Print Booklet !!

The Print Booklet feature in InDesign CS3 is a step backward!

CS2's InBooklet could create a new document. I BADLY need that feature, as I must print odd spreads in landscape mode, but even numbered spreads in reverse landscape mode.

Having to export/print to PDF, then rotate the pages in Acrobat and print from there is unnecessarily cumbersome.
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    Participant
    December 29, 2007
    I compose a monthly 12-24-page (using 11 x17 paper) newsletter on a Mac OS 10.4. I used to impose the newsletter in CS2, export a PDF using Acrobat Pro 8, flatten it and send it. It worked! Now with CS3, the exported, imposed Print Booklet file leaves photo white-outs throughout the pages. I think I've traced the problem to photos manipulated by Photoshopmostly those with transparent backgrounds (if color blocks or almost anything is behind the picture, the pic is erased). I just need basic 2-up, saddle-stitch software. Creep control would be nice. I've heard about "Quite." It's expensive and more than I need. I've also heard about Quark's Print Collection, which is cheaper but still around $300.
    Participant
    November 30, 2007
    Hi Peter,

    Thanks, you're absolutely right :-)

    Best regards,
    Stefan
    Peter Spier
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 30, 2007
    It should be under the File menu. It's possible that you are using a workspace with customized menus that don't show it, but in that case I think there is a new command listed to show all menu items.

    Peter
    Participant
    November 30, 2007
    Hi,

    After I ran into some trouble with my InDesign CS2, I decided to try-out CS3. I am currently testing a 30-day-trial version, but for the life of me, I can't find the "Print Booklet" option in any menu. Does anyone know whether it's even in the trial version or not?

    Thanks for shedding some light on this for me.

    Best regards,
    Stefan
    Known Participant
    November 26, 2007
    Quite Imposing rocks. It's got a goofy interface that takes a while to learn (imposing a full-bleed saddle-stitched job requires several non-intuitive steps, for example), but once you master the interface it's an extremely powerful tool. One of its best features is that it retains live PDF transparency throughout the process, so you can delay flattening until the last moment.
    Participating Frequently
    November 25, 2007
    Thanks! Quite Imposing looks good, but I can't afford it at the moment. I definitely need a workflow change, but I'm stuck working with others whom I can't change, plus it's all volunteer work, and there's no business basis to force a change.

    I've had good luck with sending ID CS3 files back to ID CS2 using the Interchange format (.inx). Very handy!

    I think I've figured out Print Booklet. It still should work for me, it's just that they removed a layer of complexity from the InBooklet feature that I was accustomed to working around. Now it actually makes more sense for my simple needs, but maybe others needed that extra flexibility.
    Participating Frequently
    November 25, 2007
    You can thank Quark for buying the company that made the InBooklet plugin for InDesign, which forced Adobe to scramble to create a replacement for it in Creative S**t 3 due to legalities...since Adobe and Quark don't get along well. Someone should put Quark out of its misery! Now I have to save my ID CS3 pub using InDesign Exchange format, install InDesign CS2 and hope the file opens so I can use the InBooklet plugin there since Print Booklet doesn't allow me to make proper spreads using 2 Up Saddle Stitch (it's greyed out) with my DocuTech. Thanks Quark for once again showing us why you suck for designers!
    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 25, 2007
    Quark made a business decision. ALAP made plugins for both ID and Quark.

    I suggest you revisit your workflow since you're definitely going to
    have issues saving back to CS2 just for printing.

    InBooklet was never intended to be a high level imposition tool. Export
    a PDF from CS3 and get yourself a copy of Quite Imposing for Acrobat.

    Bob
    Participant
    November 18, 2007
    All,

    The Print Booklet ption does not allow any other printer but a PS file. I need a PDF file created and am lost!

    Thanks in advance for your help

    Mike
    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 18, 2007
    I suggesting posting in the main InDesign forum with some real details
    about what you're trying to do.

    Bob
    Peter Spier
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 5, 2007
    In CS3 InBooklet, which was no longer an option, has been replaced by PrintBooklet, which, as you know, has some limitations compared with InBooklet, but is much more reliable for having the limitations.

    If you never use lists or cross-spine items you would probably never have noticed the disasters that used to happen when saving a new document from InBooklet. But Adobe has adopted the position, and I think wisely, that imposing is a last step before print and you shouldn't need a new document for editing.

    If you find you want an editable imposition, I suggest using one of the scripts that are available that shuffle pages. I use one all the time for making proofs because I needed it before there were other alternatives, and it's fast, accurate, and reliable. The only time the one I use (from Dave Saunders) has ever failed is when I tried to impose a sectioned document. Dave has been working on a revised version which solves even that, and I hope he'll get it released fairly soon.

    I know you've complained about wanting to print only specific spreads, but I think it makes just as much sense to print the whole book to PDF and choose what to print from there. Unless the document is huge, there is no real time lost in printing the extra pages to PDF, and you have the advantage of being able to change your mind an print an additional spread at any point without having to go back to InDesign to set up the print dialog again unless you've actually edited those pages.

    Peter
    kellyjaye1
    Known Participant
    November 5, 2007
    reply to Peter...

    "InBooklet SE shipped as part of InDesign CS2 and in the Pagemaker plugins for CS1. If you didn't get it either of those ways, you're out of luck. Quark acquired ALAP, the plugin manufacturer and promptly took it off the market."

    by that, do you mean if we have InBooklet from one of those ways, then that "plugin" will work with CS3 also....as in its on my CS2 and want to use it on my CS3?
    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 5, 2007
    No. It won't work with CS3.

    Bob