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January 20, 2022
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Fonts are thickening in images of layouts

  • January 20, 2022
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I have images of InDesign layouts I am putting in InDesign brochure. I have tried saving layouts as pdfs, opened in Illustrator outlined fonts, exported as jpgs, rasterized fonts in photoshop, exported as optimzed, made sure all text overprints, turned off Rich Blacks Display in preferences. I've tried saving files smaller and larger. When I print file the fonts in layouts look really thick. I've taken off dropshadows to get rid of transparency issues. Nothing seems to work. The images look fine. . . until they print)

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Willi Adelberger
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January 21, 2022

Illustrator is NOT a PDF editor, neither is Photoshp. If you want to outline Text, do it in Acrobat Pro. Transparency is not a problem in modern workflows, use PDF/X-4 to keep transparency and layers.

 

Legend
January 21, 2022

Don't outline fonts, and don't use transparency over areas with fonts. DON'T USE JPEG!! Don't rasterise. Given that, it should print just as well as the original, allowing for the scaling down. 

 

If that doesn't happen, can you please share a sample PDF we can check out?

Community Expert
January 21, 2022

Have you tried placing PDF without outlining or rasterizing the fonts?

Known Participant
January 21, 2022

Yes...that was my first attempt.

BobLevine
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January 21, 2022

That sounds like a very questionable workflow to me. What does "images of InDesign layouts" mean? Why are you opening PDFs in Illustrator? Unless they were created by Illustrator, you will destroy the integrity of the layout.

 

Finally, if you want us to really understand the issue, screenshots at a minimum would help and the files would be even better.

jmlevy
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January 21, 2022

I have images of InDesign layouts I am putting in InDesign brochure.

Did you try to import the native InDesign files in your brochure?

Brad @ Roaring Mouse
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Community Expert
January 20, 2022

Some possibiles:

1. When you change your fonts to outline, you lose all hinting that improves printing at smaller size. Outlined fonts will always look "fatter" than live type.

2. In the same vein, rasterized type will also look different

3. Your type may be interacting with transparent areas, and depending on how your are exporting these, may be rasterized/flattened whether you want them to or not. Sometimes  reordering layers to keep type "above" all possibly-flattened areas helps

Depends on your file!!

Hard to know exactly without seeing some screen shots/sample pdfs

Known Participant
January 21, 2022

1. I tried it both ways...placed pdf with text, pdf with outlines.

2. They looked worse

3. All type was on the very top layer

4. Removed all transparencies on page...took off dropshadows...

 

In the last hour, I ended up rebuilding by just copying InDesign layouts and reducing them...file is large, but it looks better. :}