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March 22, 2025
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Getting ready to package ... Photo conversion issue

  • March 22, 2025
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Using InDesign 2025 on a MacBook Pro. Using Photoshop to process photos.

I've created a coffee table book (print) and an Ebook. The layout is complete and looks great. But the RGB photos I used are too small for conversion for the final CMYK print version. It could still work as a digital version though.

 

As I see it, I have two options: 1. Reprocess and replace the RGB photos already in the layout with larger ones to accommodate conversion to CMYK in export, or, 2. Reprocess and convert the photos to CMYK in Photoshop then place them in the InDesign layout. I'd probably have an easier time with Packaging this way.

 

I haven't decided on a printer yet. I'm thinking ahead and wracking my brain as to what's the best workflow going forward that will save me the most time and have the best possible result.

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

George D.

Correct answer Robert at ID-Tasker

Yes, I have the originals. And all the project photos are number coded to match the originals. 


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Yes, I have the originals. And all the project photos are number coded to match the originals. 


By @George DeLuca

 

ROTFL 🙂 then you should've mentioned that in your opening post 😉 

 

In the future, you - and others, who will be reading this and don't already do it that way 😉 - should do it like this: 

1) select photos that you'll use - do not delete photos that you think you won't need - you never know 😉 - keep them somewhere safe, unless they are really useless, but even "bad" photos might be useful as a 15% background 😉 in the same or other publications, 

2) make the selected photos straight - rotate and fix perspective - DO NOT resample / resize / crop, 

3) do color corrections - but WITHOUT RGB-to-CMYK conversion - or vice versa - keep them as they are - UNLESS you're doing high end art catalog 😉  

4) do step 3) using layers, 

5) fix blemishes, 

6) "remove" / mask things that are unnecessary - again - using layers, 

7) save your images as PSD - preserving layers - or at least TIFF.

 

Of course, there might be extra steps needed - like when image is in the RAW format and needs to be converted first. 

 

Any "cropping" - should be done in the final application - InDesign or Illustrator. 

 

And - as long as there are correct profiles assigned everywhere - there will be no need to worry about conversion - export to PDF in InDesign will take care of that. 

 

4 replies

Willi Adelberger
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Community Expert
March 22, 2025

Leave all images in RGB. If the printer requires CMYK images, convert them with the PDF export. 
To small? Image size has nothing to do with the color mode. 

Known Participant
March 22, 2025

Thanks, that makes sense. By too small, I mean I reduced the size of the images from 6000 px wide to 2200 px. Thats how I usually send photos to the newspaper for publishing. They use them full width of the paper. Like I said, poor planning as it doesn't work in this application. 

Robert at ID-Tasker
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March 22, 2025
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Thanks, that makes sense. By too small, I mean I reduced the size of the images from 6000 px wide to 2200 px. Thats how I usually send photos to the newspaper for publishing. They use them full width of the paper. Like I said, poor planning as it doesn't work in this application. 


By @George DeLuca

 

It's still good enough for 9-10 inches when printed. 

 

More than enough for smaller sizes. 

 

Derek Cross
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March 22, 2025

Which format is the eBook to be?

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March 22, 2025

Derek, 

I haven't delved into the eBook part yet. I'm assuming I'll need to follow Amazon's Kindle standards. I'm kind of muddling through the publishing aspects of the project now. I'm pretty handy at digital media, so I need the practice. I have a couple more books planned after this one. So, I need to get my process down with the current one.

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March 22, 2025

the ebook part should be relatively easy at this point, because the images are already processed and the layout looks great using InDesign "Publish Online." Hopefully, I'm on the right track with the e-pub. I'm assuming "Publish Online" is PDF or like that.

BobLevine
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March 22, 2025

What does "too small" mean and why are you converting to CMYK?

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March 22, 2025

Bob,

See my reply to Robert (above). I'm not sure if I could have done anything differently. It's just a lot of busy work at this point. I've been away from InDesign for awhile. And I haven't worked on a project of this size before. I'm a writer and photographer and this will be my first book published.

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 22, 2025

What is the Effective PPI of the images - when you click on an image in the Links Panel in the InDesign? 

 

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March 22, 2025

Robert,

There are over 100 images taken with a digital camera. They've all been processed as RGB for a digital presentation. I downsized them (poor planning on my part), so those images are too small for CMYK. The layouts will work for print, so I'm beginning to convert the raw images to CMYK at full size. The original ppi is 72. I should be able to get 300 on most after converting. I may batch convert using Photoshop and go from there.

Robert at ID-Tasker
Legend
March 22, 2025

@George DeLuca

 

This doesn't answer the question - it doesn't matter what is the SOURCE PPI - but what InDesign shows you as an EFFECTIVE PPI on the Links panel - when you select image.