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October 25, 2017
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Ghost Content after Export

  • October 25, 2017
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For a catalog I use parts of eps files in the Indesign File. That worked fine until a while ago. I found some ghost elements when I tried to search the pdf for a specific term. If I select all content it shows all of those ghost elements. After researching I found out, that those parts are from the eps files.

See here the eps file:

instead of having a eps for each of those elements, we have one that we use several times. Putting it on this specific page looks like this:

I never had that problem before, July was the first time I noticed it, InDesign CC 2017. And since I could not find any solution yet, I try the forum. It used to cut out the eps parts that are not shown within the InDesign file. Now it puts those parts somehow on a invisible layer. The only solution I had was to print the pdf in Adobe Acrobat as a new pdf. But I think there has to be a better solution. Does anyone have an idea what I need to change while exporting the file? 

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Correct answer Jeffrey_Smith

Older versions of Indesign handle the option of "Crop Image Data to Frames" (when exporting) the same way: it crops raster images if selected, but not vector graphics.

If you print postscript and distill to create a PDF, this will crop extraneous vector data outside the frame area.

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Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 12, 2021

You should not use EPS file at all in InDesign. EPS is a lossy outdated file type from the last millenium and should not be used in combination with InDesign since 2001. Use PDF/X-4 instead or AI files. A lot of problems occur with the use of EPS files as you experience too.

 

Stop using EPS!

Inspiring
September 12, 2021

Hi Willi,

 

Please clarify the link between your answer and my question!

If I place the AI file in ID, the PDF version of the file is used. If I save the AI file without making it compatible to PDF, it is not "useable" when placed in ID.

 

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 12, 2021

You should save as AI file with PDF compatibility or you should save as PDF/X-4, but not as EPS. Why do you insist in using EPS files? It makes no sense.

Never print to PDF, only export PDF.

Known Participant
October 25, 2017

This is an easy problem to recreate. Happens with placed PDF files as well.

  1. Make a PDF with lots of objects in it.
  2. Place into Indy and crop part of it off.
  3. In Acrobat, select all with edit object tool. Then the 'ghosts' show.

I've tried exporting/saving/optimising this resulting PDF from Acrobat with various settings and nothing is deleting the hidden objects!

Obviously one can open the PDF in Illustrator and just delete them, but that's a awful solution - especially for your catalogue - and too fraught with risk.

Another drawback to these ghost objects is that they must be increasing the file size of your PDF.

October 25, 2017

The other option is to split all eps files, so that each graphic is its own file. But we have tons of those graphics and before inDesign 2017 we never had a problem with that.

Jeffrey_SmithCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
October 25, 2017

Older versions of Indesign handle the option of "Crop Image Data to Frames" (when exporting) the same way: it crops raster images if selected, but not vector graphics.

If you print postscript and distill to create a PDF, this will crop extraneous vector data outside the frame area.

Known Participant
October 25, 2017

Is the 'crop image data to frames' option selected when you export?

October 25, 2017

Yes it is.

Known Participant
October 25, 2017