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Inspiring
March 5, 2018
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Image credits using InDesign Captions?

  • March 5, 2018
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I have set up a library item composed of an image box and caption for use with images in a book I am writing. The caption draws information from the Description field of a Photoshop file. I would like to provide image credits in a section at the back of the book rather than include them in the caption. Is it possible to not only have InDesign place the data in the caption but simultaneously (using a script) place data from the Credit field of the Photoshop image in an Image Credit section at the back of the book?

Failing that, is it possible, through a separate operation/script to get InDesign to place the info from the Credit field of the Photoshop file in an Images Credit section of the book?

Thanks in advance.

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    Inspiring
    March 6, 2018

    I was out for a bit - I am not sure why the data link works now, tho I noticed that the image was on my Text Layer rather than Image Layer and corrected that (as per image below, the Image Layer is set to red, Text to blue and Copyright to pink). I am now going to see if I can modify the paragraph style that I am using for the copyright info to include the figure number.

    Then I will drag all three together into the Library for reuse - using another one for the left-hand page.

    However, HOORAY!, it is now working, tho still have to set up the TOC and run that. Thank you so much!!

    Barb Binder
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    March 6, 2018

    We are always happy to help.

    ~Barb

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    Inspiring
    March 6, 2018

    Yes, that is it. I am using 2015CC.

    Michael

    Barb Binder
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    March 6, 2018

    OK, great. Here is the workflow:

    In Photoshop, the Copyright Notice field has the data I want InDesign to display:

    Back in InDesign, I placed the same image shown above, and defined two layers, Layer 1 (blue) and Layer 2 (red). I am calling in Copyright, specifying the Caption style and targeting Layer 2 (red).

    Generating the live caption calls in the Copyright Notice and puts it on Layer 2.

    And I tested the TOC—it happily collects the Live captions when I specify the Caption style (which I had never tried before).

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    BobLevine
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    March 6, 2018

    Good to know. I generally avoid live captions because they don't wrap and the text frame has to remain in contact with the graphic.

    Barb Binder
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    March 6, 2018

    Hi Quiry:

    The metadata names in InDesign don't always match up well with the metadata names in Bridge. For example, if you ask InDesign for "Credit"  it pulls the Credit Line metadata.

    InDesign:

    Bridge:

    But if you ask for Author in InDesign, in pulls in the Creator data. It's very confusing. Which field is your photo credit stored in?

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Inspiring
    March 6, 2018

    Thanks; I am not using Bridge - I am not familiar with it - but rather from the File Info metadata Copyright field in Photoshop.

    Barb Binder
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    March 6, 2018

    You can see the same metadata in Photoshop (with File > File Info), Lightroom or Bridge. Can you share a screenshot of the metadata through the Photoshop dialog box then? Again, I am trying to ascertain which field you are trying to pull into InDesign.

    The layers are not the issue, and Bob's TOC suggestion is perfect, once you get the data into the caption.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Inspiring
    March 6, 2018

    Ah Ha!  Looks like exactly the right thing. Thanks.

    However, I have a glitch - I created an InDesign layer called Image Credits, went to Caption Setup and selected the field Copyright (where the credit info resides), set Layer to Image Credits (which is turned on) went back and selected Generate Live Caption, and I get <No data from link> in the caption box. I do not understand why Caption setup with Description selected works but Caption Setup with Copyright selected does not link.

    I also tried Generate Static Caption - it produced a caption box with no text at all but a horizontal line running the width of the box that is the same color as the box edge.

    BobLevine
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    March 6, 2018

    Something is set up incorrectly. I just finished a job where I used the static captions and it was flawless.

    I don’t understand where the layer information comes in.

    Inspiring
    March 6, 2018

    Using Layer comes from a Lynda.com video, on creating long documents, that has a section on using the TOC functionality for things other than TOC. I found the video in order to implement your suggestion of using a unique paragraph style.

    BobLevine
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    March 5, 2018

    If you use a unique paragraph style you should be able to do it by create a table of contents.