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Indesign 19.5 Merges/flattens separate elements into a single uneditable graphic?

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November 13, 2024
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This has been happening off and on for months, I haven't been able to find any other mentions of it on forums, but another designer I work with has also expereienced this. If this is a new "function" it's not helpful and I would like to know how to prevent it from happening:

If I select multiple objects in an Indesign document (for example: a vector icon, a type box, and a rectangle shape) and copy/paste them into another Indesign page, the objects MERGE into one graphic! All of the separate elements become one element within in a content box. This new "flattened" graphic can't be opened or edited - I tried to right-click it but the popup menu does not recognize the graphic as something that could be opened in Photoshop etc. It doesn't matter if the elements are grouped or if it's just multiple objects selected, the result is the same: it becomes a single uneditable graphic. The Undo command does not undo the merge, so I have to delete the new "flat" image and repaste the elements (often multiple times) until it copies as it should. Sometimes it doesn't paste correctly after repeated tries, so I have to quit and restart. I've checked to make sure my finger isn't accidentally holding some other key as I paste, but I can't imaging why merging multiple individual elements into something uneditable in a layout program would be an option at all, mistake or not. Screen shots of "before" (individual elements) and "after" (merged) are attached.

I updated to the newest version of Indesign hoping to resolve it, but to my surprise, the Paste In Place key command would not work. It only worked about 10% of the time, sometimes the Paste command didn't work either. (Yes, I tested to make sure it's not my keyboard, but Paste In Place keyboard command did work in other Adobe programs.)

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

Just in case it helps, I see the 20.0.1 patch is out.

Mike Witherell

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Gabr¡el

Participant

Hi,

Unfortunately I am not bringing any solution, actually, I am looking for one.

I have been having the exact same issue for a while now. This is happening (in my case) just inside of Indesign, copying and pasting inside of the same document, as well as from other Indd document.

I have tried everything suggested here, including the copy and paste from the menu instead of using shorcuts.

Thank you everyone!

Working on MacBook Pro - OS Sonoma 14.6.1 - Indesign 19.4.

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

I dunno. But after re-reading this post, maybe a deep reset is in order?

https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/reset-indesign-preferences-and-other-troubleshooting/m-p/11990234#M423408

Mike Witherell

Luke Jennings3

Community Expert

What happens when you don't use the shortcuts and use the menu? Did you do a full shut down and restart of your computer? Try using the clipboard preferences in the attached screen shot (even though this is for copy/paste from external sources). What happens when you use the Content collector tool to copy/paste? If this were a bug, I would expect more users to be complaining. Are you using any 3rd party plug-ins?

Mike Witherell

Community Expert

Edit > Preferences > Clipboard Handling > and turn off all the Prefer PDF switches.

Mike Witherell

Robert at ID-Tasker

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Edit > Preferences > Clipboard Handling > and turn off all the Prefer PDF switches.

By @Mike Witherell

Isn't that only for external sources?

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Jenifer32133388scrfAuthor

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Thank you - this option is already unchecked in my Preferences and I still get the same effect.

BobLevine

Community Expert

Sounds like you're copying from one version of InDesign and into a different version of InDesign. If that's not the case, let us know.

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Jenifer32133388scrfAuthor

Participant

Hi Bob - no, I'm only using Indesign 19.5.

James Gifford—NitroPress

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I will just say that I've never seen anything like this behavior, and a few minutes of experimenting along the lines of your report have resulted only in more or less exact copies of whatever was selected, copied and pasted. ID is, if anything, meticulous about maintaining the relationship of elements, including things like layer assignment.

So either you're doing something else that's odd/not usual practice, or you have a significant gflitch in your system. As RT says, it helps a lot to know exactly what platform, OS, version etc. you're using, and to share a sample file that has the before and after objects in it.

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Jenifer32133388scrfAuthor

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Thanks James - It's like when you take your car to the mechanice because it's making a noise but they can't reproduce the noise or diagnose... I can't get Indesign to do it when I want to show anyone, it doesn't happen all the time, but frequently enough for it to be an issue. I work in a production environment so I use keyboard commands to work quickly, but I've been paying close attention to ensure I'm not accidentally holding down or kitting a key as I paste, but all I'm doing is just selecting objects, Cmd V and Cmd P and the objects merge. It's really bizarre.

My OS is Sonoma 14.6.1, Indesign 19.5