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January 2, 2019
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InDesign Cloud Libraries can't be color managed?

  • January 2, 2019
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Elements added to the CC Library from InDesign only allow CMYK Transparency Blend Space!! Is seems not possible to change to RGB.

Follow me through:

1. Create a new doc, RGB blend space.

2. Add a box, apply a gradient to it (any gradient, but I would suggest to you to use RGB strong values, 100% Red to 100% Green).

3. Select the element and drag it to the CC Libraries panel.

4. Close and discard the new document created.

5. Go to the CC Libraries panel, double-click on the newly created element.

6. Check Edit >> Transparency Blend Space: your asset is in CMYK!

7. Change it to RGB.

8. Save.

9. Close doc.

10. Go to the CC Libraries panel, and open the element again.

11. Check again the Transparency Blend Space: it ignored the change to RGB and remains in CMYK!

I have made some testing and it seems that, as far as you use the RGB element in a RGB document, it will preserve color values and attributions - so, if you know what you doing and how to handle color, not risk whatsoever.

Nevertheless, it is weird that InDesign CC Libraries does not allow RGB space, as it leads to confusion...

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Correct answer Laubender

Laubender  wrote

Of course I followed your step-by-step discription. I do not agree to some of your points.

A library is storing a frame with a gradient fill. It's just like you are doing a snippet IDMS file of a selected rectangle.

CC Libraries will not change the color model of the stored object. If the applied gradient is using two RGB colors you still can see the two colors as RGB in the Swatches Panel after dragging out the asset to a e.g. a new document.

Regards,
Uwe

Hi Uwe, thanks again. I don't really read what you desagree about. Your point is correct and says the same I said above: it won't change the value of color.

BUT if you double-click in the CC Library element, it will always "create" a new document where to display the saved object for edition. Well: this document, regardless of what the native condition of that object was (e.g. it was originally made in a RGB doc), will be CMYK and this can't be changed, which can lead to confusion.


Suripanta  wrote


…BUT if you double-click in the CC Library element, it will always "create" a new document where to display the saved object for edition. Well: this document, regardless of what the native condition of that object was (e.g. it was originally made in a RGB doc), will be CMYK and this can't be changed, which can lead to confusion.

Well, not always.

It depends on the intent of a document you set when no document is open with Document Setup.

If the intent of Document Setup with no document open is e.g. Web Intent the blend space for a temp document when double-clicking the asset in CC Libraries will be RGB instead of the default CMYK one.

Regards,
Uwe

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Community Expert
January 2, 2019

Hi Suripanta ,

I think, you are drawing the wrong conclusions.

Blend Space is no property of a single object, but a property of an InDesign document.

CC Libraries do not store InDesign documents. CC Libraries can store single objects like your rectangle with the RGB gradient.

So the value of blend space can be changed any time after or before you drag out the asset to a document. Or if you create a new temp document by double-clicking the asset you can change blend space afterwards.

Regards,
Uwe

SuripantaAuthor
Inspiring
January 2, 2019

Laubender  wrote

Blend Space is no property of a single object, but a property of an InDesign document.

CC Libraries do not store InDesign documents. CC Libraries can store single objects like your rectangle with the RGB gradient.

So the value of blend space can be changed any time after or before you drag out the asset to a document. Or if you create a new temp document by double-clicking the asset you can change blend space afterwards.

Regards,
Uwe

Hi Laubender, thanks for getting involved in the discussion.

Have you tried following my step-by-step guide above to see what I mean? Because your answer seems not to target my point

Community Expert
January 2, 2019

Of course I followed your step-by-step discription. I do not agree to some of your points.

A library is storing a frame with a gradient fill. It's just like you are doing a snippet IDMS file of a selected rectangle.

CC Libraries will not change the color model of the stored object. If the applied gradient is using two RGB colors you still can see the two colors as RGB in the Swatches Panel after dragging out the asset to a e.g. a new document.

Regards,
Uwe