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March 12, 2019
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Indesign optical text problem

  • March 12, 2019
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We've just had an issue with Indesign where we were moving a text wrap box over a text box and the text further down the document moved. First i checked the single-line composer which was ok before i noticed that the text was set to optical. Does anyone know why the text was affected even though it was nowhere near the text i was working?

Thanks

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    Barb Binder
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    March 12, 2019

    Hi Anthony:

    Without examining your file, no, I can't tell why the unassigned frame with text wrap is forcing the reflow. I will note that you have changed two defaults, both of which impact the text flow. Paragraph Composer is the default for evaluating where to break the lines in a paragraph, and Metrics is the default kerning method. These tend to work well, so often we keep the defaults unless there is something in the text flow that warrants changing them. (In this case, perhaps something in the text flow warrants changing them back.)

    A workaround might be to slightly pull in the offset on the text wrap. You can use negative values, and since you just have what appears to be an invisible shape, perhaps that will do the trick. I'm not clear what the frame is actually doing since you don't have text in that location (and you do have text over the crow).

    As I type this I'm now wondering—do you intend to drag this over the crow to move that text out of the way? And easier solution would be to add the text wrap to the crow image. You can further customize the text wrap boundary using the Pen tool and Direct Selection tool if you don't care for InDesign's automatic "Detect Edges" option.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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    March 13, 2019

    Hi Barb,

    Once again thank you for your reply. As we often supply these files to foreign customers we set them up with a separate text layer within the document. We add text wrap boxes to the text layer so the individual layers can be output separately.

    In this case we noticed it but some of our books could have linked text boxes which can span several pages. Theoretically the text could've gone wrong somewhere else in the document and we wouldn't have noticed it.

    Thanks

    Steph

    Barb Binder
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    Community Expert
    March 13, 2019

    Hi Steph:

    Thank you for the additional information. Just want to make sure that you aware that you can hide a layer without impacting the text wrap (unless you enable Suppress Text Wrap When Layer is Hidden).

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Barb Binder
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    Community Expert
    March 12, 2019

    Hi Anthony:

    Before and after screen shots with text frames and hidden characters showing would be helpful here.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
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    March 12, 2019

    Hi

    You can see from the second screen shot that as soon as the text wrap box touches the text box it knocks over the text half way down the page. I have checked and the culprit looks like the word 'and' on the 8th line. If i change just this word to metric the issue resolves itself.

    Thanks