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January 24, 2020
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Is it possible to detect text that has ended up behind a picture?

  • January 24, 2020
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I'm working on a set of historical diaries with lots of images. I suddenly noticed that a full page of text was hidden behind a full page image.

This is surprising to me as I am sure that I had my custom preflight preferences set to detect that. I've been trusting my preflight profiles for a long time and many books. I'm certain this has happened once before and that the preflight warned me.

But now I don't see such an option anywhere in the preflight profile preferences. Have I imagined that it was ever there or has it been removed?

(It is not under Hidden page items and not Overset text.)

 

Of course I can and should manually check the links between all text boxes but with some 5000 pages that keep changing all the time, an extra safety would be very helpful.

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Anna Lander
Inspiring
January 24, 2020

You can also create a Master Page without a text frame and apply it to pages with full-page images. But if you used any Object style for images, changing the style will be faster 🙂 

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 24, 2020

You should apply to all images an Object Style which makes text wrap. This will hinder any text to flow behind images.

You should work with layers. Put the layer with the images (which are not anchored) in a layer below the text. That is, what you sould do normally anyway.

If you need captions above images, aply these text frames an Object Style which ignores text wrapping. Create a specific layer for those captions above the layer with the images.

Known Participant
January 24, 2020

Thank you for your advice! Interesting point about Text Wrap. I've never thought about using it for full page images. I use it all the time for smaller images with text flowing around them.

 

I used to work with all text and images in separate layers but I found that with the preflight detecting (or so I thought) text behind images in a single layer, I didn't need this anymore. It is a lot quicker for me to work without switching back and forth between layers all the time. Now I only have a master layer with page numbers and such on top, a backgrounds layer and then all of text and photos in one layer.

 

Still wondering if it there is a way of detecting text behind images without having to check every page. I can structure things better on the next project.