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carold21150814
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April 5, 2017
Question

Is ther a way to Multiply Transparency of Paragraph Shading?

  • April 5, 2017
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Is there a way to Multiply Paragraph Shading, or give the illusion of this?

I've tried as well making the tint 80% and selecting 'Overprint'. I have also selected VIEW/OVERPRINT PREVIEW, but that just makes the tint 80% with no transparency.

 

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    G_Man
    G_Man
    Inspiring
    June 13, 2024

    Carol - I've just had this same query for a brochure front cover. My workaround is to remove shading from my 3 lines of text , and set them inside 3 x text boxes, one under the other, and apply a fill set to Multiply with 80% opacity. The text renains crisp white at 100% opacity. I certainly hope that you've resolved this yourself in the last 7 years. You can then set this as an Object Style. It's a shame that in 2024, this is still not an option for shading.  

    Harshika Verma
    Community Manager
    Harshika VermaCommunity Manager
    Community Manager
    June 13, 2024

    Hi there,

     

    We are sorry for the frustration and will ensure to share your feedback with the team. I found a similar request raised on the UserVoice page: https://adobe.ly/45k1Nq5.

    We would request you to please submit your feedback and upvote the request to add your voice for better visibility.

     

    Thanks,

    Harshika 

      carold21150814
      carold21150814Author
      Known Participant
      April 6, 2017

      Sorry wrong screen shot

      Obi-wan Kenobi
      Obi-wan Kenobi
      Legend
      April 6, 2017

      Hi,

      Just a comment!

      Why don't you do it with 2 autosized text frames using "Multiply" Fill + "Normal" Text?

      (^/)

      rob day
      Community Expert
      rob dayCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      April 5, 2017

      If you multiply the text or its frame both the shading and the text multiply, which I assume you don't want?

      But it looks to me like the Paragraph Shading Overprint setting does work as long as you follow the rules of overprinting. Overprint only works with CMYK colors and the color that is overprinting can't contain a percentage of the color below. So here in the top example my shading is set to 100|0|0|0 cyan and it overprints the 100% magenta below. But if I add 1% magenta 100|1|0|0 to the shading color there is no overprint.

      I don't think there is a way to multiply the shading and not the text but I haven't used shading that much

      carold21150814
      carold21150814Author
      Known Participant
      April 6, 2017

      Correct. I would like to just have the shading be transparent, NOT the text. And ideally without having to manually adding a box behind the text as I like the way this could be automated using paragraph styles. Here's a screen shot to give an idea.

      I don't really care if it's paragraph shading, rules or some other method, but I'd like the background to be tied into some sort of paragraph or character style or even an object style if possible.

      I tried making the grey box 80% and applying overprint views but it just lightens the grey.

      rob day
      Community Expert
      rob dayCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      April 6, 2017

      I tried making the grey box 80% and applying overprint views but it just lightens the grey.

      The overprint isn't working because your shade color is a 4-color mix over what looks like a grayscale image. In some cases overprinting acts like a multiply, but they are not the same. It would work if your shading color had no black in the mix. Overprinting is not intuitive and if this is going to a press you'll have to make sure the printer isn't overriding the overprint settings.

      Here my overprint color is 82|75|75|0 (no black) and the image below is a grayscale:

      You could also make the background image RGB or 4-color CMYK and use a black only tint for the overprint color:

      Barb Binder
      Community Expert
      Barb BinderCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      April 5, 2017

      I'm also unclear, Carol.

      There is not a multiply blend mode option for paragraph shading, but you can add it to a frame.

      ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
      Eternal Warrior
      Eternal Warrior
      Inspiring
      April 5, 2017

      Or are you trying to make the text more opaque? I'm somewhat confused now I read your post again.

      Screenshots would help.

      Eternal Warrior
      Eternal Warrior
      Inspiring
      April 5, 2017

      Two things:

      Would help if you gave a screenshot.

      Also have you tried applying a drop shadow effect to both the actual text and the object? If the object only contains Text then this can re-produce an additional multiply effect making the shadow intensity even stronger:

      Best,

      EW

      Eternal Warrior
      Eternal Warrior
      Inspiring
      April 5, 2017

      You may only need the effect applied to the text but its worth being aware of.

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