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Macbook Pro + Tahoe + Adobe Apps

  • August 24, 2026
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Hi everyone,

I would like to ask a question not about a specific single Adobe application, but directly regarding Adobe and macOS Tahoe in general.

Ever since I upgraded to Tahoe (since September 2025), using Adobe applications has turned into complete torture. First, I ran into InDesign place issues. Dreamweaver crashes constantly—it even crashed 22 times in half a day. Despite having an active Adobe CC subscription and Dreamweaver, I am on the verge of buying Panic Nova ($99). For a while now, I’ve also been considering buying QuarkXPress instead of InDesign (I used Quark back in the 1990s anyway).

While Adobe apps used to launch quickly on my MacBook Pro, launch times started to drag out with new minor Tahoe updates, and it gets slower with every single update. Acrobat triggers the beachball without exception every single time, forcing me to wait for it to finish before I can do anything. There are many more issues, but these are enough to illustrate the situation. The MacBook Pro + Tahoe + Adobe combination has become sheer misery. I think it might be time to say goodbye to both Apple and Adobe.

Is anyone else experiencing similar issues? Is this related to Tahoe, or is it specific to my MacBook Pro?

I have been fighting Apple over this for a year. We went to court, and I won the first round unanimously with a ruling for a 1-to-1 product replacement. Apple appealed, and we are now in the second round. I requested separate expert witnesses from the court for both hardware and software, which was granted, but Apple avoided an independent expert evaluation.

The question I'm trying to answer is this: Are these issues caused by Tahoe, or are they stemming from my MacBook Pro?

Best to all…

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TrygaiosAuthor
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August 27, 2026

What's the point of asking me to redo, over and over, things that have already been done?
(I've noted the only solution I could find at the very bottom. Let's please close this topic too.)

The other day I mentioned the court in order to describe how the "Dreamweaver team" was open to contact at first but backed off after the mention of the case. This isn't the place for it, I know, but you said "court story." Let me repeat it: "Adobe first opened the door, then closed the door."

I installed Tahoe the moment it was released. 26.0

  • macOS 26.0 -> With InDesign and Photoshop open full-screen, the desktop not visible, when I created an image in Photoshop, saved it to the desktop, and switched to InDesign via the Dock to import it, that file wasn't showing up. (while making a magazine) — this was something I did constantly throughout making a magazine. If I sent the programs to the Dock, made the desktop visible, and clicked on any folder, the icon of that newly created file would appear. Sometimes even that didn't work, and I'd do it with a Finder restart. The problem wasn't stable. I'm not sure whether it's been fixed; in September I'll be preparing 2 magazines, so I'll find out then. Acrobat was fine. (interactive or not, I work a lot with PDF-Acrobat)

(unrelated to Adobe, Apple Mail stopped working, it receives but doesn't send. But at that very moment, Outlook and Yandex mail work fine.)

2-3 weeks later I switched to Sequoia with a clean install. I deleted Tahoe.

But because of other hardware problems (the keyboard), I contacted Apple support. I explained the above and the hardware problem. The files were closed saying it's having a "Music problem, Dock problem," etc. I recorded the InDesign problem above on video, they gave me a URL and I sent it. For 3-4 days there was no response, I established phone contact again. They had thrown it into FEEDBACK; I objected, and was told "what else were we supposed to do," with an Apple employee shouting "Adobe has to conform to us, we don't conform to them." It's in their records.

  • macOS 26.x -> Copy-paste problems began. I use WhatsApp from the computer; the ones longer than a sentence or two I write in Text Edit and transfer via copy-paste. It made a collage in the text, copy-pasted a bit from the start, a bit from the middle, all jumbled. In Dreamweaver too, though not very heavily, it produced copy-paste problems in an unstable way. Copy outside the selected area, paste outside where the cursor was clicked, incomplete paste. The same thing happened in Safari->Pages too. I'm preparing a book for a publisher, for print. This problem is CRITICAL. With this point release, this time an Acrobat problem appeared as well — the beachball, and it continued to persist in the subsequent point releases too.

My requests to Apple support continued. After they closed them with things like feedback, Music, Dock, that's when the court. Because then they can't irrelevantly say "Music app problem," "let them solve it with Adobe."

Apple Ireland made contact. They connected remotely 4-5 times, 2-3 hours each. Apple speaks by rote; the first thing they say is "update your computer." That is, install Tahoe and let's see, they said. I installed it. I showed the problems, "Adobe is at fault" was said. I showed the Acrobat beachballs, both video recording and live. "Then use Apple Preview" was said.

With every new point release, new and new problems appeared. I switched to Sequoia again with a clean install.

The court concluded, device replacement (February 2026). Apple filed an objection petition to overturn the decision. The only thing they said is this: "it is contrary to reality that our devices, made of extraordinary components, would malfunction." Not a single technical sentence.

I requested a court-appointed expert from the court and, so that Apple couldn't say "it's not up to date," I installed TAHOE AGAIN, to hand the computer over to the court.

etc. etc.

So it had been switched back to Sequoia. On Sequoia the above problems had not occurred. (The hardware, keyboard problem is not related to macOS.)

There's no need to install Sequoia on an external disk; it has already been installed via clean install during this process, and been updated to Tahoe again because of Apple and the court.

The user account… If there were a problem with the user account, clean installs had already been done, the problematic user account was already deleted during formatting and reinstalled spotlessly. But the problems didn't change.

11 months of constant testing. Adobe CC was scoured off during formatting, reinstalled spotlessly, etc. etc.

In Adobe's hands (and Apple's) there is a pile of crash reports belonging to me. The Dreamweaver Team. If they looked for 30 minutes they'd know the cause of the crashes.

Now why is Tahoe still installed on my computer? I'm writing an app for the App Store with Xcode and it has a few days' work left. After it's uploaded to the store, I'll never do an update either. In about 40 days the court concludes. This means I can now sell the device I have — if the replacement decision is upheld, Apple will take this one and be obliged to give me a brand-new one.

Adobe didn't take an interest, Apple was perfunctory, only trying to close the file. The expert I requested from the court (2 experts in total, for hardware as well) — my request was accepted. But Apple ran away. Because they say nothing other than "it is contrary to reality that our devices, made of extraordinary components, would malfunction"; they even objected to the court with this sentence (if you like, I'll send the objection petition).

MY SOLUTION:
The only solution I can find under these conditions: once the court ends, to sell either the current one or the new one that will come with the replacement decision. To buy a PC and install LINUX. To deal with neither Apple nor Adobe. Of course, Adobe Animate has no alternative and I need it. Let me write it openly: I'll use Animate too, that is, as a CRACK, by creating a virtual machine on Linux, if installing Windows ARM turns out to be possible. After this 11-month process, I don't find anyone who uses a crack to be in the wrong.

What's the point of asking me to redo, over and over, things that have already been done?

 

Best Regards 

leo.r
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 27, 2026

First, nobody knows what you did or didn’t do except for what you reported to us.
 

There's no need to install Sequoia on an external disk;


I never suggested installing it on an external disk, but on a different volume (that is, a separate volume on your internal hard drive, which you create with Disk Utility).

This way you have both Sequoia and Tahoe available. 

There’s no need to keep upgrading then downgrading the same macOS installation on a single volume.

It appears that everything works fine for you on Sequoia. So you can keep working on Sequoia while booting into Tahoe for testing when needed.

It wasn’t a good idea to upgrade your working Sequoia to Tahoe (especially right when Tahoe was released) in the first place. You needed to install Tahoe on a separate volume, test it there, and only upgrade your working Sequoia installation to Tahoe when you’re confident it works as expected for you. In general, you don’t have any pressing need to upgrade Sequoia for a few more years.

Like I mentioned earlier, you can now have an option to install Golden Gate beta on a separate volume and see if it fixes your Tahoe issues. Who knows, maybe it does. All kinds of things happen in the software world.

I don’t reject the possibility that you have a faulty machine but it looks like Apple isn’t going to replace it anytime soon (even if that’s what they might as well should do).

TrygaiosAuthor
Known Participant
August 26, 2026

It's been exactly 11 months. Nothing has been done except testing. Apple (at the request of Ireland) connected remotely 4 or 5 times. I wrote to the Dreamweaver team, was told "let's take a look remotely," and once they heard about the court case the doors closed. I'll leave all that aside. Throughout 2026, whenever I used Dreamweaver and it crashed, without exception I did "send to Adobe" and "send to Apple."

Anyone who respects their customer, who actually intends to solve the problem, looks at those reports. Stalling with pointless tests, wearing down one's patience and grinding one down. Exactly like what Apple did before the court case. I didn't even use the Music app on the Mac, I never even mentioned it to support, and they said "you're having Music app problems" and closed the case. Covering up their own mess, just like Adobe.

What is a clean new user going to solve anyway? The machine was already wiped, clean installs were done, during that process. If it were in the user settings, it would already have been fixed after the clean format.

What's more, when Dreamweaver is sold on its own, it's the same price as all the other individually sold Adobe applications. It hasn't received an update since 2021. If it isn't generating enough revenue, you pull it from sale; if you don't pull it, ensuring its compatibility with operating systems is commercial ethics.

A global US company? Machines of domination that couldn't professionalize. Let me give a completely different example, unrelated to Apple and Adobe but the exact same pattern of behavior.

Google. On YouTube, I ran a short-video ad. Normally I wouldn't, but beforehand I also connected Google Analytics to my site. 24 hours after publishing the ad, I looked at the statistics on YouTube. It says "we sent 690 people to your site." I looked at Google Analytics, it says "60 people came to your site." Both are Google. I took screenshots, wrote to Google Ads support asking "what does this mean." A crude, coarse guy said "go explain it in the community." I replied, asking "when you buy a product from a store and there's a problem, do you gossip with the customers, or do you talk to the store management?" He closed the support case. So there's fraud, and they're aware of it.

I hold online mythology meetings. With Google Meet. Right now I'm busy installing RED5 on my own server. So as not to have to deal with these strange people who think they own everyone. If Adobe hadn't displayed passive, submissive behavior toward Apple, if it had been able to defend Flash when Steve Jobs leveled his absurd accusations at it "because he couldn't control it," I would be using FMS instead of RED5.

Amid a world of work and obligations, I'm not going to deal with testing on top of it. For 11 months, the monetary value of the working time I've spent on this problem, I don't know how many computers it would buy. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SOLVE A PROBLEM OPENS THE CRASH REPORTS IN THEIR HANDS AND LOOKS. If they don't, it's a stalling, grinding-down tactic.

Curse Apple and curse Adobe alike.

Mike Witherell
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2026

Did you grant Full Disk Access to your Adobe apps?

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchl211c911f/mac

Mike Witherell
TrygaiosAuthor
Known Participant
August 24, 2026

Yes, I granted all the permissions (including Full Disk Access).

 

 

Mike Witherell
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2026

Remove Wacom IOmanager and reboot and test to see if the problem goes away.

Possibly related to this:

 

Mike Witherell
Abhishek Rao
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 24, 2026

Hi ​@Trygaios, thanks for reaching out, and I’m sorry to hear about the experience you’ve been having since upgrading to macOS Tahoe.

In addition to the suggestions already shared by the experts, could you please test the same workflows after starting your Mac in Safe Mode? This will help isolate whether any third-party applications, extensions, or other software may be interfering with the Adobe applications. You can follow Apple’s instructions here: Start up your Mac in Safe Mode.

Also, could you please confirm whether the InDesign files and linked assets you’re experiencing issues with are stored locally on your Mac, or whether you’re working with files saved on a cloud-synced location, external drive, network drive, server, or other remote location? 

 

Please share your observation to proceed further. 

Thanks

TrygaiosAuthor
Known Participant
August 24, 2026

Hello, and thank you for your reply.

First, let me clarify the overall picture. The problems aren't entirely consistent, but they've persisted heavily — each point update has added new ones while some older ones quietly disappeared. Rather than pointing to "this specific thing is broken," I've reached the point of watching for "which new problem the next update will bring." I haven't tried Safe Mode yet, but a 10-minute test won't reveal anything; I'd need to run my normal daily routine continuously in Safe Mode for at least a week to 10 days for it to surface.

For reference: MacBook Pro (M3, November 2023), currently on the latest macOS Tahoe.

I don't keep any of my files in the cloud, and I never have, neither iCloud nor Adobe CC. Everything is on my local storage, the computer's own SSD. For the past two months I've had an external NVMe and started doing a couple of tasks on it, but for the prior 10 months I used no external disk at all, only the Mac's internal SSD.

Since September 2025, since the Tahoe update, I have a screen recording of every problem I've run into. Every time Dreamweaver crashed, I clicked the "send report to Apple and Adobe" button and captured a screenshot at each step. I can share these as well.

Four or five months ago I had an email exchange with the Dreamweaver team about this same issue. A remote session was offered and I was asked for a date and time; I gladly provided them, and I noted that if it were a voice call my English isn't strong enough but my sister can interpret, and that text would be no problem. After it came out that I have an ongoing consumer case with Apple, the thread went quiet. I'm telling you this upfront on purpose: if it's going to be an obstacle, I'd rather we both know now than after I've set aside a time and waited.

To be clear about why it has no bearing here: the case concerns a hardware defect. Software was brought into the second proceeding by Apple itself, not by me, I then requested a court-appointed expert examination, and Apple avoided it. The court is not seeking technical detail; what it will actually rule on is the hardware matter, it will either uphold or overturn the court-appointed arbitration panel's decision, which is purely about hardware. Everything relevant to the case has already been submitted, and nothing from a remote session could feed into it. My only aim here is to fix the Dreamweaver problem, and if you're willing, I'm genuinely glad to do the remote session.

As a side note: yesterday I installed the Panic Nova trial, it appears to offer the multi-project and remote features that kept me tied to Dreamweaver, so after the trial I may end up purchasing it. And with Quark, I'm testing one specific thing; once I do, my decision will become clearer.

Best Regard

leo.r
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2026
but a 10-minute test won't reveal anything; I'd need to run my normal daily routine continuously in Safe Mode for at least a week to 10 days for it to surface.


You mentioned earlier that Dreamweaver crashes constantly (even up to 22 times a day), so it looks like you can notice changes much faster.

In addition to this, you can also try the troubleshooting step I suggested earlier, that is creating a clean new admin account and working from there.

You also mentioned you didn’t have any problems on Sequoia. You can install Sequoia on a different volume and work there. 

In addition to this, Tahoe will become a legacy system soon. You can install a beta of Golden Gate and see if it makes a difference.

I do realize that each of these steps take time and are not exactly fun. But probably still easier than taking Apple to court (although you said that the court case concerns a hardware defect so I’m not sure if all of this is connected to each other).

 

TrygaiosAuthor
Known Participant
August 24, 2026

Thank you for your reply. May I ask which Mac you're using? Mine is a MacBook Pro, November 2023, M3, 14". I'm asking so I can figure out whether this is specific to that series or specific to my own machine.

I should mention, though, that everything worked flawlessly on Sequoia. The moment I updated to Tahoe, the problems never stopped. Every point release means a new problem, whether or not it fixes the old one.

For instance, I don't know if it's been resolved by now, but I copied the text of a law in Safari and hit paste in Pages, and it only pasted the first 30–40 words. I tested it over and over, always the same. I recorded it, too. Every so often, when I try to copy and paste in Dreamweaver, it copies not the part I selected but some unrelated spot, pastes not where I clicked the cursor but somewhere unrelated, and often in fragments.

There are a lot of problems. The one thing they all have in common is that they "started with Tahoe."

Best regards

Community Expert
August 24, 2026

I have M1 Macbook Pro, so technically I am on an older machine from yours

-Manan
TrygaiosAuthor
Known Participant
August 24, 2026

Thank you for your reply :)) Before the MacBook Pro I used an Air, and it was an M1. To be honest, I didn't feel any difference at all between the M1 and the M3 — in fact I regret buying the MacBook Pro, because it felt not one bit different from the M1 MacBook Air, so it was almost a wasted purchase :)) That's why I don't think it will be a determining factor in the problems above. Thanks again.

leo.r
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2026

There are countless Tahoe users (including myself) who don’t have these issues, otherwise, we’d hear about it. Did you ever try to create a clean new admin account and work from there?

(I have Dreamweaver always open and it doesn’t crash. I’m still running Dreamweaver 2021 though, which shows that I’m not its heavy user anymore.)

Community Expert
August 24, 2026

I use Acrobat and InDesign on mocOS Tahoe and I have not seen issues to the point of crippling my work. Acrobat does hang if I do some specific operation like selecting a big tag and then scrolling, requiring me to kill it. What specific issues are you facing. Are they replicable on other machines as well?

-Manan