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August 27, 2023
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Minion + Greek + Small Caps

  • August 27, 2023
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Hello,

 

I'm typing the Greek alphabet with minion pro, and when I try to make something small caps... it doesn't work.

 

I've searched adobe fonts and can't find anything obvious to help. Of course I can change fonts, but it seems like it would be a weird oversight if there were really no Greek small caps with minion.

 

Any help would be appreciated!

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Correct answer Scott Falkner

It would appear there is no Greek small caps built into Minion Pro.

 

You can achieve what you want using GREP Styles if there is a way to target lowercase Greek letters. I don’t think there is a wildcard specific to lowercase Greek letters so you would have to use or (vertical bar) between each letter you want to find. Then apply a small caps character style. I find the best way to make that is to use horizontal and vertical scaling then increase the font weight a bit (normal to semibold, for example).

 

Here I have made a small caps character style that uses Minion Pro Caption, vertical scaling is 67%, horizontal scaling is 70%. I then used a GREP Style to apply it to lowercase Greek letters with this term:

(α|β|γ|δ|ε|ζ|η|θ|ι|κ|λ|μ|ν|ξ|ο|π|ρ|ς|σ|τ|υ|φ|χ|ψ|ω|\l)

 

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alenasuna
Participating Frequently
December 11, 2024

I have the same problem - have to type all in caps. I have a language school so not being able to type in Greek is suboptimal. Trying to find a solution

Marc Autret
Legend
August 28, 2023

Hi @315741944lg7,

 

To complete Scott's answer, note that the GREP pattern \l alone already captures any lowercase letter (including in Greek), so (α|β|γ|δ|ε|ζ|η|θ|ι|κ|λ|μ|ν|ξ|ο|π|ρ|ς|σ|τ|υ|φ|χ|ψ|ω|\l) is redundant.

 

1. If you want to specifically capture lowercase Greek letters, then [α-ω] is shorter and usually sufficient.

 

2. The basic Greek and Coptic Unicode block has additional lowercase characters with diacritics, hence you can extend the pattern to [\x{3AC}-\x{3CE}] for a better coverage.

 

3. The Greek Extended block might be required too (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_script_in_Unicode). In that case a lookahead is useful to preselect lowercase letters before you specify the class:
(?=\l)[\x{370}-\x{3FF}\x{1F00}-\x{1FFF}]

 

Here is how this works in InDesign with the corresponding GREP styles (rendered in blue) applied to a sample text in Minion Pro:

 

 

Best,

Marc

Participant
August 31, 2023

thank you!

 

Scott Falkner
Community Expert
Scott FalknerCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
August 27, 2023

It would appear there is no Greek small caps built into Minion Pro.

 

You can achieve what you want using GREP Styles if there is a way to target lowercase Greek letters. I don’t think there is a wildcard specific to lowercase Greek letters so you would have to use or (vertical bar) between each letter you want to find. Then apply a small caps character style. I find the best way to make that is to use horizontal and vertical scaling then increase the font weight a bit (normal to semibold, for example).

 

Here I have made a small caps character style that uses Minion Pro Caption, vertical scaling is 67%, horizontal scaling is 70%. I then used a GREP Style to apply it to lowercase Greek letters with this term:

(α|β|γ|δ|ε|ζ|η|θ|ι|κ|λ|μ|ν|ξ|ο|π|ρ|ς|σ|τ|υ|φ|χ|ψ|ω|\l)

 

Participant
August 28, 2023

Ah I didn't think of trying to imitate it with other properties. I found a combination that gets me really close. thanks!