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Paragraph Style Exception — Rules

Forum|Forum|3 years ago
May 26, 2022
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Hi, I'm creating a style with paragraph rules below every line.

I would like to have the last line of the paragraph with no rule (an exception to the style) but I can't find how to do it, besides going one by one and unchecking the rule on that last paragraph by hand.

Any idea how to make an exception to the style? I'm creating a template for a client and the more automated it is, the better.

Thanks!

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Correct answer jmlevy

You need 2 different styles; one with a rule, another one without.

Or you don't use paragraph rules, but create each rule in a separate paragraph with an underlined tab (I would use the first solution: 2 different styles).

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Randy Devost

Participant

It's too bad that we cannot have the option to easily omit a rule being applied to a paragraph that doesn't have a hard return entered.

James Gifford—NitroPress

Legend

Well, "a paragraph" is a string of text ending in a pilcrow/paragraph mark/paragraph end.

A string of text ending in a soft return is just part of a larger paragraph.

ID is overwhelminging paragraph- and style-based. You need to work from and within that model or every task will be uphill and difficult.

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Community Expert

Assuming your page has no background like your image shows, could you try putting a paper-color box on the master page that covers up the bottom rule? You would need to make a top-level layer to hold the master page items. and put any footer items on top of the box.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

James Gifford—NitroPress

Legend

As good a technical answer as any (and, as almost always, ID has several solutions in the box for every layout issue)... but the need to make this layout accessible to downstream users would steer me away from using layers. I can see the "magical disappearing text" confusing the heck out of a less-experienced user, and if they unlock layers to "fix things"... ayy.

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Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Community Expert

Respectively disagree.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

James Gifford—NitroPress

Legend

As noted, you have to have two different styles, one way or the other.

InDesign does not have CSS-like rules such as '::last-child' to apply structural changes automatically. But with clear naming of the styles, a novice user should be able to sort out the usage.

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Willi Adelberger

Community Expert

Use for the headline no rule, for all others rule above, no rule below. Keep options with keep before.

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

You can't have exceptions.

Consider two paragraph styles

One without a rule above as the first style - with apply next style as being the style with the rule

Then a 2nd style based on the style

Then set the paragraph rule above for the 2nd style

You can then apply that style then the next style to apply the styling correctly.

https://layersmagazine.com/what-is-next-style-in-indesign-cc.html#:~:text=Next%20Style%20is%20one%20of,apply%20it%20to%20your%20text.

jane-e

Community Expert

Nice article from @Jeff Witchel, ACI , Eugene!

Jane

Jeff Witchel, ACI

Community Expert

Hard to believe that was 8 years ago. I really miss Layers magazine.

jmlevy

Correct answer

Community Expert

You need 2 different styles; one with a rule, another one without.

Or you don't use paragraph rules, but create each rule in a separate paragraph with an underlined tab (I would use the first solution: 2 different styles).

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Eugene Tyson

Community Expert

Hey I missed your reply - that's good advice.

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