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AndyGar
AndyGar
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November 28, 2022
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Parent page overrides seemingly not working

  • November 28, 2022
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Not sure if this is a flaw in InDesign or my memory going.

 

  1. I have placed a text frame on the A-Parent, and added some text and set the font face to Arial and given it a fill colour (lets say Blue) and applied it to every page.
  2. I then go to an individual page and Ctrl / Shift click on it to override and change the font fill color to a different color (orange).
  3. Having done this go back to the A-Parent and alter the Font face for the text to something else (Time New Roman).
  4. When I go back to the page which had the override applied I am now expecting the text to still be orange but with the new font face of Times New Roman, however it is still set to Arial while all the other pages have changed to Time New Roman.

 

Shouldn't editing the font face on the A-Parent pass through to this page, as I only overrode the font color?

 

Thanks, Andy

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Correct answer Scott Falkner

I can deny that that's how its defined in the Help file. However, it's very difficult to keep track of which attributes have been changed on the parent page and which on the document page, as you can tell from the complexity of the description, it's a complicated interaction. I usually treat the overridden item as "unlinked" because I can rarely keep track of such changes, especially if time has elapsed from then when I did the overriding.

 

I would choose choose Pages panel menu > Parent Pages > Remove all Local Overrides if I wanted to get rid of overrides on a page. 


Perhaps content is not considered an attribute. You can change the stroke size or colour, fill colour, or effects. Those are attributes and the changes should propagate through to the overridden object. But changing the content (even attributes of content) is a kettle of fish of a different colour.

3 replies

Willi Adelberger
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Willi AdelbergerCommunity Expert
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December 13, 2022

Fonts are not changed via Master/Parent, they are only fixed via Text styles, Pargaraph and Charcter Style.

Barb Binder
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Barb BinderCommunity Expert
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November 28, 2022

Hi Andy:

 

If you create a paragraph style to control the formatting, and edit the style, this will work the way you want it to.

 

~Barb

 

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    AndyGar
    AndyGarAuthor
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    November 28, 2022

    Hi Barb, the issue here is only overrides on parent pages, the paragraph styles are working fine. I've put a bit more detail in my reply to Steve above. Thanks, Andy

     

    Steve Werner
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    Steve WernerCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 28, 2022

    When you override a frame on a parent page, you break the link to the frame on the parent page. Only by reapplying the parent page to the document page can it take on the parent page attributes.

    Steve Werner
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    Steve WernerCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    November 28, 2022

    To clarify, I meant, "When you override a frame based on a parent page, you break the link..."

    AndyGar
    AndyGarAuthor
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    November 28, 2022

    Hi Steve, For some reason I thought the link only broke if you actively detached the frame from the parent, but that an override simply overrode that individual property while still allowing the rest to be inherited from the parent (like with Para styles for example). 

    Just out of interest if it breaks the link totally how does it differ from detaching the object then?

    Thanks

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