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April 2, 2025
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Problem in Indesign with converting text to outlines.

  • April 2, 2025
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Problem in Indesign with converting text to outlines.
If I convert the text to outlines, a copy remains with the original text. If you view the pdf in acrobat, you will see that the letters are also bolder. If you then edit the file, you will indeed see 2 layers with texts. Is this a bug?

Correct answer Laubender

Hi @Wim_Rene ,

thanks for your screenshot.

I suspect that the text frame contains a table object.

In that case InDesign will indeed do a duplicate to convert text to outlines when the text frame is selected.

That behavior is not new.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

4 replies

Abhishek Rao
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 4, 2025

Hi @Wim_Rene,  

 

I tested this on my end, and everything works as expected. I’m not seeing a duplicate text frame after converting to outlines. As Dave suggested, could you check if the extra copy was already in the file before converting?

Could you try testing this in a newly created file and see if the issue still occurs? That way, we can confirm if it’s specific to the file you’re working on. Let me know the observations. 

 

^

Abhishek

Wim_ReneAuthor
Participant
April 4, 2025

I did some tests.

In my current file there is no copy behind the text box. That only comes when I convert text to outlines.

When I create a new text box and convert it to outlines there is no copy.

The file was created a few years ago in a previous version of Indesign and is adjusted every year and has therefore undergone several updates of Indesign.

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 4, 2025

The problem is not that the file was created in an older file. This can be healed via the IDML path.

The problem is that you have outlined the text. This is a terrible wrong workflow and should never be done.

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 3, 2025

You should not convert text in InDesign to outlines. Many more problems appear. If you need outlines, do it in Acrobat     > Print Production                           > Preflight, but never in InDesign.

Dave Creamer of IDEAS
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 3, 2025

As I said...

 

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)
Dave Creamer of IDEAS
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 2, 2025

Are you sure the extra copy is not already in the file, perhaps directly on top of the other? I suspect someone make a copy of the text layer to have an editable version just in case. That's the only way layers would show up in Acrobat.

 

Regarding the bolder text... Make sure your Smooth Line Art preference is on in Acrobat.

 

Finally, you shouldn't be converting to outlines in InDesign. You will lose certain typographic features. It should be done in Acrobat Pro after you make the PDF. That also leaves your InDesign file intact for future edits. (I won't get into whether you should outline text or not...)

 

 

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)
Community Expert
April 2, 2025

@Wim_Rene asked: " … Is this a bug?"

 

Hi @Wim_Rene ,

perhaps. Could you provide a sample InDesign document and the version of InDesign?

Do you try converting the text with a selection of text or do you select a text frame?

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

 

Wim_ReneAuthor
Participant
April 3, 2025

Thanks for the reply. I now know what the problem is. I selected the text frame and then a copy is made.

Community Expert
April 3, 2025

@Wim_Rene said: "… I selected the text frame and then a copy is made."

 

Hm. That should not make a copy of the text.

Just tested that with InDesign 2024 and InDesign 2025.

All as expected: all text of the selected text frame was converted to outlines, no copy of the text frame happened.

 

HOWEVER:

if you hold the alt (option) key when doing this InDesign does the following:

[1] A duplicate of the text frame will be done

[2] Text in the duplicated text frame will be converted to outlines

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )