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davecourtemanche
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February 23, 2024
Question

Space Between Paragraphs Bug?

  • February 23, 2024
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Since updating to ID 19.2 (OS Sonoma 14.2.1), I am running into this issue more and more. I cannot set the Space Between Paragraphs Using the Same Style in the Paragraph Style Options / Indents and Spacing to "Ignore". Get this error message. Super annoying. Is this a bug?

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Joel Cherney
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February 24, 2024

I'm on 19.2 on Win10 and can reproduce this bug, no sweat. All you need to do is have a set value for Space Between Paragraphs in a paragraph style, and then try to change it to "(Ignore)". It pops up the error message that @davecourtemanche reports:

 

 

However, it's possible to get it to reset back to "Ignore" by deleting the value and saving the style:

 

 

When you just look at it, it reports 0 points, but if you pull down the dropdown, it's set to "Ignore." This makes me wonder about the practical difference between 0 and Ignore here; is it a value where your parastyle is Based On another style, and you just want the child style to have whatever same-style inter-paragraph spacing that the parent style had? In any case, that's clearly a bug, and if you don't head over to indesign.uservoice.com to report it, I will.

Joel Cherney
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February 24, 2024

Maybe the bug is that "Ignore" is an option at all? I posted the above when I had the steaming coffee sitting on my desk, but before I'd started drinking it. I took my first sip of the day and immediately slapped my forehead and said "What did I just post?" (I may have used somewhat stronger language.)

 

When I'm making character styles, I use "Ignore" all the time, because I want the values I've used in the paragraph styles to take over. That's what it's for, right? But in a paragraph style, all the values have to Be Something. If I go to Case or Kerning dropdowns in the Basic Character Formats section in a paragraph style, there's no "(Ignore)" setting there. It has to have a value. But if I'm in a character style, the "(Ignore)" option is there, meant to allow the parastyle values to be used. Are there any other locations in the paragraph styles where "Ignore" would be a valid choice?

Community Expert
February 24, 2024

As you say - it's probably not a bug - but how it works - it has to be 0 or some value. 

That's how it works.

BobLevine
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Community Expert
February 24, 2024

Current version of Sonoma is 14.3 and fixes a slew of bugs in the O/S that affect InDesign.

Frans v.d. Geest
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Community Expert
February 24, 2024

14.3.1 to be exact 😉

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 24, 2024

Yeah, yeah...everyone's a critic these days. 🙂

Community Expert
February 24, 2024

I've never seen that error message before

 

If a document is not behaving well then try 

File>Export 

Choose IDML

Open the IDML in InDesign
Save the file as a new InDesign file with a new name
See if the issue persists.

 

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Try resetting your preferences:

Windows: Start InDesign, and then press Shift+Ctrl+Alt. Click Yes when asked if you want to delete preference files.
macOS: While pressing Shift+Option+Command+Control, start InDesign. Click Yes when asked if you want to delete preference files.
A dialog will appear asking to delete the InDesign Preferences, select 'Yes' on this dialog.
Further info and instructions here if needed:
https://helpx.adobe.com/in/indesign/kb/indesign-preferences-support-file-locations.html

 

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Reinstalling rarely fixes everything - you can do a complete reinstall using the
Creative Cloud Cleaner Tool https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html