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LdoSul
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September 24, 2019
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text flow based on different master pages and 2 other (easier) questions

  • September 24, 2019
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Hello everyone! I have 3 totally unrelated questions about InDesign, the last one beeing really tricky for a newcomer such as myself, that I was hoping someone could help me out with:

 

NUMBER 1:

-The "correct" / standard way to apply a paragraph style to large amounts of text flowing through multiple text frames on different pages is to select the whole thing with the Type Tool (ctrl + a / click 5 times) and than apply it? I still strugle to accept the fact that I can't do this with the selection tool.

 

NUMBER 2:

-Once I have text already placed flowing through multiple text frames on different pages, can I somehow change the "text frame options" (say I want it to change from 1 column to 2) of all of them at once? And should I do this?

 

NUMBER 3:

-Let's say I'm working on a book and that I've made a master page (MASTER A) with single cloumn empty text frame that I then applyed to my first page. I proceed to place the unformated text I had in a .docx (edit>place>shift click) file in the frame in the first page and naturally indesign creates as much pages as are needed. Wonderful! Now here is the thing:
I also have a second type of master page layout (MASTER B, this one with a 2 column empty text frame) that I would also like to use here and there in my book. For example, my first 5 pages would be based on MASTER A, and the next one on MASTER B, and the next ones back to MASTER A again, etc. Is there a way to change some of my pages from based on MASTER A to MASTER B while keeping the the text flowing continually through all of them?

I am aware that I could edit each page individualy by overriding the MASTER A page layout (instead of using a MASTER B), or I could break my text file into multiple smaller ones and then do several "edit>place" instances, but neither of these options is exacly pratical if I have to this numerous times through the document. How should I approach this?

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4 replies

Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 24, 2019

Primary frames are underrated. They are great for managing long documents, and I suspect you'll be glad you have discovered them.

 

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 24, 2019

I think that about covers it. Please let us know if you have what you need, or if  you have any additional questions.

 

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
LdoSul
LdoSulAuthor
Participant
September 24, 2019

You are right! Barb and Anna, you girls did an awesome job in addressing my questions, thank you very much!

I didn't really know about Primary Text Frames, I guess the tutorials I followed just kind of skipped it, lol.

Anna Lander
Inspiring
September 24, 2019

In addition to Barb's answer

№1

If you want to apply Character style, you have to select all the text which you want to apply to. For Paragraph style it's enough to click once somewhere inside paragraph, and style will cover all the paragraph. Doesn't matter wether this paragraph is placed in 1 frame or some different ones. If you need to apply style to the whole text on 1 spread, you can select all the frames on spread by Selection tool. But for different spreads you have to use Text tool and Ctrl/Cmd+A shortcut.

 

№2

You can change the text frame options any time. But if you want to change an amount of frames together, create  master frame on Master Page and change its settings there. For different properties create a needed number of master pages with different seetings for master frames. Apply the masters to the needed pages. All your internal text formatting and styles will keep.

 

№3.

If you create the document with Primary Text Frame option turned On, you can apply any master to any page in any time, and text flowing will keep. Just open the panel menu of Pages panel and choose "Apply Master to Pages". In pop-up dialogue insert the needed page numbers, e.g. "5-9, 12, 14-18, 21 36 etc." Write the ranges with hyphens and separate numbers with commas.

 

Barb Binder
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 24, 2019

It's best to ask three unrelated questions in three different posts. When you need clarification on each one, the thread gets extremely confusing.

 

So, to address question 1, yes use Select all and assign the paragraph style. You can click in the text five times or use Ctrl+A (Cmd+A on a Mac). 

 

If you want to change the appearance of multiple frames at one time, be sure to design the document using primary frames, and update the primary frames on the master page. The body pages using those primary frames will update. 

 

I'm out of time—class is starting—so hopefully someone else will stop in to address the third question.

 

~Barb

 

 

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training