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Inspiring
Oct 22, 2025 4:45 PM UTC
Question

What's this space called, and how do I adjust it?

I have a project with mixed fonts/symbols on the same line, and the distance the line "descends" is based on some font settings, I assume.

In this example, you can see the differences in spacing above the Ws:


When the word "Wish" is removed, the W of "When" is flush against the top of the text box (solid magenta line). When adding other fonts/symbols onto a line, as you see here, I'd like the W in When to remain at the top of the text box (and, in this case, the W in Wish would ascend above it).

The only thing I found so far in googling for that space is "Line Height," but I don't think that's it.
Is there a way to adjust this on a Character-Style level in InDesign?

I'd rather avoid baseline-shifing my main body text.

Any help appreciated!

 

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rob day
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Oct 23, 2025 10:48 AM UTC

Hi @turner111 , Also, if the thread @Joel Cherney links to doesn’t cover your case where you have different point sizes on the first line. This might help—no one will agree where the first line of a text frame should start, so there is the First Baseline preference:

 

The largest pont size in the first line’s Cap Height:

 

 

Fixed puts the first baseline (which does not change with font size) on the top of the frame:

 

 

With Fixed you can customize the first baseline and set the cap height of the smaller text size to align with the top of the frame

 

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Peter Spier
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Oct 22, 2025 5:30 PM UTC

Select the text frame and open the Text Frame Options dialog. Under the Baseline Options tab use the dropdown to select Fixed for first baseline, and set the Minimum value to waht it needs to be to position your W where you want it and that should force the larger text to rise abve the top of the frame.

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turner111Author
Inspiring
Oct 22, 2025 5:39 PM UTC

Hey Peter - thanks - looks like this should work. 
Still trying to figure out how this is set and/or adjusted on a font level, though. 🙂 

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Peter Spier
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Oct 22, 2025 6:00 PM UTC

I think you are going to find that this will require a lot of trial and error as the Cap Height (distance above the baseline to the top of the Capitals) and the baseline position relative to the leading "slug" (the total vertical space occupied by the type including any ascenders and descenders as well as top- and bottom-bearing allowances) is at the discretion of the type designerand will vary with the font chosen.

You might try highlighting a bit of text in your font at the size and leading you are specifying which should give you a highlighted representation of the type slug and if you zoom in you might be able to use the Measure tool to get a good reading.

 

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Willi Adelberger
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Oct 22, 2025 4:52 PM UTC

Use a fixed leading and not the automatic one (in parentheses it is the auto one).

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turner111Author
Inspiring
Oct 22, 2025 5:03 PM UTC

Hi Willi - thanks, but that has no effect in bringing it closer to the top line (or another line of text above it).

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Willi Adelberger
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Oct 22, 2025 5:26 PM UTC

Do you work with a character style? Leave the leading field empty, possibly you might make empty the size definition.

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