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February 22, 2024
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When exporting multi level numbering to RTF, numbering disappears.

  • February 22, 2024
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I have been designing a template for a proposal document, and want to send the text to be reviewed. When I export the threaded story as an RTF, none of the numbering comes across. The indents on the third level are in place, but no numbers. 

 

Is there a way I can export stories to RTF and retain the numbering? I am hesitant to convert the numbering to text as it changes with each version. I want it to remain a live numbering system when exported as well as when in inDesign. Can anyone advise? 

 

I can not use incopy as those reviewing do not have access to the full adobe sweet. It could be that I need a third party workflow for microsoft and adobe? 

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JR Boulay
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February 23, 2024

"My colleagues do not have acess to the full version of acrobat so can not edit PDFs"

Your colleagues must not edit the PDF, they should use the comment tool with Acrobat Reader, then you import the PDF comments in your INDD layout.

 

Otherwise you can Share and Collaborate:

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/share-and-collaborate.html

 

Or Share for review:

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/share-for-review.html

 

Welcome to the 21th century! 😉

Acrobate du PDF, InDesigner et Photoshopographe
Joel Cherney
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February 22, 2024

It's been many years - almost twenty - but I've been in your shoes before. Before translation tools had the ability to process IDML files, I exported and re-imported carefully styled RTF files as a daily workflow practice. The paragraph styling has to be perfect in order for it to work. Even so, the RTF export filter isn't perfect, but if all of your e.g. third-level paragraph numbering is perfectly styled, then you can open the RTF in Word and add auto-numbering to the style there.  As you observe, the tabs and indents and etc. come through the RTF export process just fine. Then, when your contributors have finished their edits, you re-import their RTFs using style mapping, so that the InDesign styles are applied to the RTF contents upon import. When it works, it works really well; just re-import the RTF post edits, allow InDesign style mapping to clean out all the MS Word crud, and then you can clear all overrides with a clear conscience. 

 

That's how I did it, back at the beginning of my career. Today, almost any other method would be superior. Bob has already covered all of the good solutions. There are some potential mediocre multi-step conversion processes  that haven't been mentioned yet. Perhaps InDesign -> PDF -> Word .docx should be classed as actually worse than what you're doing, but I've successfully used that workflow before, as well.  But "using Wordsflow" and "post-export RTF correction" seem like your most likely solutions.

 

 

BobLevine
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Community Expert
February 22, 2024

What's wrong with PDF?

Maisy1Author
Participant
February 22, 2024

My colleagues do not have acess to the full version of acrobat so can not edit PDFs... Desperately trying to find a work around!

 

Thanks though

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 22, 2024

Edit? Okay...let's back up.

What's the end game here? For them to edit this? InCopy is $5/month and is by far the best way to handle this. Exporting to RTF is probably the worst. If you had asked before you started I might have recommended Wordsflow from Em Software but that would require you to have placed and linked a Word file.

You can try Share for Review also.