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Why is elements outside margins visible when printed?

Forum|Forum|6 years ago
March 29, 2019
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I getting Close to end my work in InDesign, partly thanks to the help I received here,

however when I print out the document elements that is outside the preset margins is visible, making the Whole thing looking less Professional obviously.

Do I really have to adjust the pics and text boxes to be in line With the margins, or is there any way to cut the elements outside the margins when I print?

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vinny38

Legend

I'm also having hard time to understand exactly what you mean, but let's have a try.

If I understand correctly, you are not going to send out the PDF to a professional printer, but that you will print it on an office printing machine.

Meaning, no bleed, no trim, but - is that what you want?- even blank margins all around the final document?

Are you saying that your document looks like this:

That the printed output looks like this:

And that you want it to print like this:

Am I correct ?

If so, it will be easier to advise, if not, please show us some screenshots... (normal view)

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

Hey, sry for the late response guy. I haven't been online in the (extended) weekend.

Yes, this is a pretty good example showing the issue. I thought the margin would give me the result in the print you showing last even if the frames reach outside the margin.

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi MikaelFL:

InDesign offers numerous alignment aids in addition to lining objects up on the bleed lines or margin guides:

Window > Object & Layout > Align
Pull ruler guides out of the rulers
Create a grid with:
- Layout > Create Guides
- View > Grids & Guides > Document Grid
Smart Guides

For more information, see: Use grids in Adobe InDesign; Create and work with ruler guides in InDesign

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

BobLevine

Community Expert

Are you saying that images are extending outside their frames?

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

No, I intentionally sat the frames to extend outside the slug line to be sure that doesn't end up uneven.

Your question indicate that I totally misunderstood and the slug line only work as a guide and that I have to set the frames to the slug myself?

BobLevine

Community Expert

English is obviously not your first language so perhaps we're losing something in the translation.

Can you post screenshots of what you see in InDesign and a picture of what the print out looks like?

Jongware

Community Expert

Be warned that not having any Bleed is considered "less Professional"!

1. Do not cut off your images, or any other content that runs up to the edge, at that edge, ever. There Must be Bleed. Printers need it so they are not required to cut the printed pages with sub-millimeter accuracy (which seems easy enough for a single page; but is very hard to do with whole stacks of pages, even though they prefer this over cutting one page at a time).

2. Only when exporting or printing for proofing purposes, disable bleed if you want a general idea of how the final processed pages will look. When creating a final to-be-printed PDF, (a) verify that all images and other edge-side content have enough bleed, (b) you have enabled Bleed in the export, and (c) that it appears in the final PDF as it should.

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

No Pictures runs up to the edge. If sure look more Professional im Magazines and such, but in a paper/document, which is what I make, the pics should not rundt out to the paper edge.

Derek Cross

Community Expert

Print from a PDF produced from InDesign, not directly from InDesign.

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

Tried, does not make any difference.

BobLevine

Community Expert

Sounds like you have bleed enabled. Check that first.

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

No bleed is enabled as far I can see..

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SJRiegel

Legend

You can adjust your print settings (Bleed and Slug) to print only items within the page margins.

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MikaelFLAuthor

Inspiring

I tried checking out for slugs and set 12,7 mm., but that just made 1/3 of the pages getting the pic cutted in edge and some of it seem to be showed in the edge of the next page(!)

rob day

Community Expert

Do I really have to adjust the pics and text boxes to be in line With the margins, or is there any way to cut the elements outside the margins when I print?
I tried checking out for slugs and set 12,7 mm., but that just made 1/3 of the pages getting the pic cutted in edge and some of it seem to be showed in the edge of the next page(!)

Just to clarify the terminology, the margin, trim, bleed, and slug are all different page elements. Here from the inside to the outside: the magenta line is the margin, the black line is the trim (everything inside of the trim mark will show in the finished page), the red line is the bleed, and the cyan line is the slug. Any page item between the trim and the slug will be trimmed of in the bindery.

With facing page documents the inside bleed has to come from the opposite page—the inside bleed gets removed when the pages are imposed by the printer.

This would include an inside bleed and slug from the opposite page:

While this would not include an inside bleed or inside slug:

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