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Workspace reverts to Essential for every new document

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October 15, 2021
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Hi there, I'm having an issue where every document that I open reverts the workspace to Essential. Is there a way to set this to my desired setting and make it stick. I've scoured the forums and tried everything mentioned from clearing caches and preferences to uninstalling and reinstalling. I've set the workspace with no documents open and closed and reopened the app but it just reverts back to Essential when I open a new/existing document.

Please help! This is driving me crazy as I have to do it every time I open a document.

I'm on an iMac (2020) with InDesign 16.4.

Thanks

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Correct answer davecourtemanche

This kept happening to me in 2021 & 2022. My hack/workaround is to get the workspace to where I want it and save it with my name. Then navigate to where the workspaces are (on a Mac):

/Users/(youruseracct)/Library/Preferences/Adobe InDesign/Version 16.0/en_US/Workspaces

and copy the workspace I just created. Paste it and rename Essentials.xml

That way, when it auto loads Essentials (for whatever reason) it loads your custom workspace. You can make a copy of the Essentials workspace and keep it somewhere if you think it'll be needed.

Zen Creative Agency

Known Participant

Yep, same problem here... has been happening for 3 years at least.

StuartBlair

Participant

Same here. Using iD 2023 on mac os 12.67. The problem is even worse for me because it will revert back to essentials while a document is open. This wasn't happening on iD 2022.

The real drag is the time suck especially when you are in and out of a bunch of files.

davecourtemancheCorrect answer

Inspiring

This kept happening to me in 2021 & 2022. My hack/workaround is to get the workspace to where I want it and save it with my name. Then navigate to where the workspaces are (on a Mac):

/Users/(youruseracct)/Library/Preferences/Adobe InDesign/Version 16.0/en_US/Workspaces

and copy the workspace I just created. Paste it and rename Essentials.xml

That way, when it auto loads Essentials (for whatever reason) it loads your custom workspace. You can make a copy of the Essentials workspace and keep it somewhere if you think it'll be needed.

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BOOMFLYAuthor

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That's a genius solution! I will definitely try this. Thank you.

Barb Binder

Community Expert

Hi @BOOMFLY:

Is it saving any of your preferences? If you change the units of measure to inches with no docs open, does it return to picas?

Also, I've been running into issues with Dropbox set to online-only mode (not this one but plenty of others). Is that activated, or is it using local mode?

~Barb

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training

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BOOMFLYAuthor

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Hi @Barb Binder,

Yes it is saving preferences. If I change units it will save those.

Yes my thoughts was that it could have been a Dropbox thing. The issue occurs with online-only and local files and I've created and saved files outside of the Dropbox file system and the problem still occurs.

Anshul_Saini

Community Manager

Hi there,

Sorry to hear about the trouble you are facing. This is not typical behavior. I suggest you create a new user account (https://support.apple.com/en-in/guide/mac-help/mtusr001/mac) and run your CC apps there. Let us know if you see similar behavior there.

Regards,

Anshul Saini

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BOOMFLYAuthor

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Hi Anshul,

Thanks for your reply. I have created a new user account and opened InDesign from there - the problem still persists. I am running MacOS Monterey 12.2 (iMac). It happens on all documents whether they are new or old. I save files to the system HDD (Dropbox area) but same problem when same file is outside Dropbox file system. Here's a video to demostrate the problem https://www.loom.com/share/c1bcc1a85cdd42f188a26857c6df4cbf

Look forward to your reply.

Anshul_Saini

Community Manager

Hi @Anshul_Saini,

Thanks for your help.

As mentioned the "Share & Workspace change" icons only appear on initial start up of InDesign. Close InDesign if you have it open, then open again from the App icon (not from a document file). In v17.1 you should see these options in the top right. Any how it has no effect because if I set my option here, it is overrided when I open a document - as you can see in the video.

I have created a sample document and opened it in the same way as the previous video. See new video: https://www.loom.com/share/e140061769ad42bdb9218b8ceaf3b771

You can download the sample document file here: https://we.tl/t-Jm8ynTTh0m

I have tried clearing the caches and preferences many times and have just repeated the steps that you have mentioned. The problem still persists. The video above was recorded after clearing caches, etc.

Thanks

Thanks for sharing the file and trying the steps. I tried your steps and am still unable to make those icons appear on the home of InDesign. Also, I would like to know if you have renamed UXP & CEP folders. Note these are not InDesign preferences folders. Also, please confirm if you have uninstalled and installed InDesign or whole Creative Cloud & apps using the CC Cleaner tool? If yes, and none of this worked for you. Then, I'd recommend you to connect with our technical support team (https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?rghtup=autoOpen). The team here would be able to perform remote troubleshooting and assist you accordingly.

Regards,

Anshul Saini

davecourtemanche

Inspiring

This was happening to me. I deleted the Essentials workspace & relaunched ID. The Essentials workspace was recreated, but was no longer corrupt, allowing me to have my workspace load properly.

/Users/~/Library/Preferences/Adobe InDesign/Version 16.0/en_US/Workspaces/Essentials_CurrentWorkspace.xml

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BOOMFLYAuthor

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Hi davecourtemanche,

Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately doesn't work for me.

davecourtemanche

Inspiring

Do you have Suitcase Fusion running? I had the issue fixed. Then I just updated Fusion, which installs new plugins. The issue returned. Removed the Suitcase auto-activation and the issue is fixed.