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darraghm98410987
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May 17, 2023 9:04 PM UTC
Question

AI Denoise Panorama

Hi,

Only started playing around with the new denoise feature yesterday. It's unbelievable.

However, I stumbled across a slight problem. I merged a panorama of about 7 images, all DNG no edit on them. Didn’t apply the auto settings from the panorama either. So that spits out a new DNG image for me, but doesn't want to run the AI denoise on it. I get that some formats won't work, as well as compressed DNGs etc etc. Am I wrong to assume all the necessary data is in the panorama to run the AI denoise? 

 

Would love to know why it won't work.

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thomas_bredenfeld
Community Expert
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Jun 14, 2023 10:28 AM UTC

just swap your two process steps:

  1. apply denoise on the raw files as they only work with original raws while respecting the generic sensor behavior.
  2. them merge the denoised single images into a panorama.

also keep in mind that the panorama stitching includes a geometric treatment to compensate the original lens projection and to fit the new projection of the panorama during the merging process (either into a flat, a cylindrical or a spherical projection). so the original pixel pattern necessary for the Ai denoising isn't available anymore after stitching the panorama.

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Apr 11, 2025 4:45 AM UTC
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just swap your two process steps:

  1. apply denoise on the raw files as they only work with original raws while respecting the generic sensor behavior.
  2. them merge the denoised single images into a panorama.

By @thomas_bredenfeld


How will this work with the new "preview" mode where it's no longer creating a new, denoised DNG file, but rather adding the denoising pattern to the existing DNG? My feeling is that even if I follow your advice, first denoise and then merge, the denoising is ignored and the merged file contains the non-denoised images. 

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JohanElzenga
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Apr 11, 2025 5:55 PM UTC

This is an old thread, things have already changed. The current version of Lightroom can denoise linear DNG files, so you can safely assume that the future non-destructive version will be able to do that as well.

 

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johnrellis
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May 18, 2023 4:06 AM UTC

"Am I wrong to assume all the necessary data is in the panorama to run the AI denoise?"

 

To build on thedigitaldog's reply, the panoramas are "linear" DNGs -- the raw sensor data has been converted to RGB data prior to merging.  Currently, Denoise only works with raw sensor data, not RGB data.  See here for details:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/denoise-work/

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TheDigitalDog
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May 17, 2023 9:23 PM UTC

Linear DNGs cannot be processed in Denoise; they are partially processed. Thats likely why some don't work for you. 

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