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AI mask not updating after editing in Photoshop

Forum|Forum|2 years ago
January 27, 2024
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Hi, since few days I'm facing weird issue -> when I:

1. Edit RAW image in Photoshop (option: edit in Photoshop from Lightroom), then file saves properly as second file (TIFF) and is added to Lightroom Library properly

2. Edit this TIFF photo in Lightroom, make some adjustments and create some AI masks (object)

3. Then again choose option to edit in photoshop (original TIFF), make some changes in object

and then those created masks in Lightroom are selecting "old" object, even if I create new mask. Option from Library module "update AI settings" doesn't work. I have never had this issue, and I'm doing this kind of operations from many months.

If I copy settings from this photo (A) to another photo (B), and then copy settings from B to A, then masks are regenerating properly and are selecting new object. But this is weird workaround.

Earlier, when it worked a weeks ago, after Photoshop edits and saving, changes applied earlier in Lightroom dissapeared and I was able to repeat them from history panel - this always regenerated AI masks. Now I have any possibility to regenerate and re-analyze image.

I'm using:

Lightroom 13.1

Photoshop 24.0

on MacOS 14.1.1 (23B81)

macOS

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Jao vdL

Community Expert

Let me see if I understand your workflow correctly.

1. you edit a raw file in Photoshop and save as a tiff. So now you are working on a tiff, no longer on a raw file.

2. You edit on this raw in Lightroom, making slider changes, doing AI masks, etc.

3. You "edit original" in Photoshop from Lightroom and do some work in Photoshop, for example, you remove an object, change cropping, etc. and save.

4. Now all the AI masks you made before are wrong and don't get reupdated?

This is expected. The AI masks don't get recomputed automatically when you go into Photoshop on the original, also if you change cropping or other image dimensions in Photoshop, the existing masks might get misaligned. You will have to recompute them.

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Jan22539515x91jAuthor

Participant

Jao, you understood correctly, thanks! I would swear than several weeks ago I haven't to recompute masks manually. But no problem, I can do it manually, just one thing: I was wondering, how to do that? A few months ago I've got sometimes some prompt after making some changes and button with "update mask" text. I could use it and it recomputed masks - now that's option gone (not showing anymore for me). I tried to use one option in Library (right click > develop settings > update AI settings) - doesn't make any changes. Or maybe am I wrong and that's not proper option for do that?

JohanElzenga

Community Expert

I think you can only update an AI mask if Lightroom decides that the mask needs to be updated. For example, if you have a sky mask and then you use the healing brush in the sky, that mask will need to be updated. Lightroom will show this with a small red dot. However, I am not sure if there is any situation where an object mask needs to be updated according to Lightroom. I think you need to reconsider your workflow and not create such a mask if you are going to make further changes in Photoshop that will misalign that mask.

-- Johan W. Elzenga

GoldingD

Legend

I am at a lost, no clue

J

Jan22539515x91jAuthor

Participant

At what point did you get lost? maybe I can explain this in more detail?

GoldingD

Legend

Then again choose option to edit in photoshop (original TIFF),

Ok, to clarify, in the screen below, you are selecting what?

J

Jan22539515x91jAuthor

Participant

Third option (Edit original), so: I'm editing original file, then saving changes - which are present and visible in Lightroom after saving, in the same file, with adjustments previously applied in Lightroom.

GoldingD

Legend

I may be confused. Were you accomplishing some LrC edits on that TIFF file, then sending to PS for more edits, but finding that the LrC edits did not appear in PS? That is exactly what will happen if you select Edit Original.

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