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January 31, 2022
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Am I really missing out by using Lightroom 5?

  • January 31, 2022
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Camera: Canon 5d Mk 2

Workflow: 1) Import files into LR 5, rename files and apply keywords, copyright etc. (catalog in the thousands)

2) Apply wb, exposure, contrast etc, apply sharpening and fix chromatic abberation if needed.

3) Export best photos as tif, ready to use in Photoshop CS 6.

 

I read the updates mentioned for those on the subscription model, but I doesn't really explain how theres been any improvement to the standard stuff of the exposure, contrast and sharpening side of the software. If im doing just this stuff in LR 5, does the latest Lightroom classic on subscription really offer any benefits?

 

My other main concern is support for cameras and lenses. If I was to upgrade my old camera and lenses and buy newer stuff, would I get into trouble as LR 5 support finished ages ago and wouldn't recognise newer hardware profiles? thanks

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Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 31, 2022

The current version is Lightroom 11, so you have to consider that there have been six major upgrades since Lightroom 5.

 

The Lightroom 5 Develop module is on Process Version 2012, which is almost the latest. Lightroom 8 introduced Process Version 5 (yes, they changed the numbering), which according to Adobe,

 

…offers improved negative dehaze and improvements to image quality for high-quality ISO raw files. You'll see less noise when you move the Dehaze slider to the left of zero (negative dehaze ), and less of a purple/magenta color cast in your low-light shots with improved shadow details.

 

If you think your images would benefit from that, you would want to upgrade. Lightroom 5 doesn’t have Dehaze, so that’s a reason Adobe upgraded the Process Version: To make possible a range of new capabilities that you can’t do in Lightroom 5.

 

One other reason to consider upgrading is that there is an entire set of improvements that aren’t in the user interface: Compatibility and performance. If you think that you might be buying the latest Windows 11 PC or Apple Silicon Mac any time soon, Lightroom 11 is significantly more optimized to take advantage of the multi-CPU, powerful GPU, lots of RAM computers that are available now.

 


@Hmmokthen wrote:

My other main concern is support for cameras and lenses. If I was to upgrade my old camera and lenses and buy newer stuff, would I get into trouble as LR 5 support finished ages ago and wouldn't recognise newer hardware profiles? thanks


 

The way that’s handled is that if you buy a new camera that Lightroom 5 will never be updated to support, you can use the free Adobe DNG converter to batch-convert those newer files to DNG. Lightroom 5 can then use its DNG support to read them. The problem is the inconvenience of and additional time required for running all your future images through the conversion just to get Lightroom 5 to read them.

 

Most of the problems with Lightroom 5 have to do with being not being compatible with the latest cameras and computers, so maybe that’s one way you could approach this: Hold on to Lightroom 5 and if you think you might want a new camera or computer (or both) soon, that would be the trigger to upgrade.

 

And keep in mind that if you rely on tight integration between Lightroom and Photoshop, you will probably need to upgrade Photoshop too. Fortunately, the Photography Plan subscription that includes both is around US$10/month, less than almost any other plan Adobe has (and these days, a lot less than what Netflix costs just to watch some TV).

HmmokthenAuthor
Inspiring
February 2, 2022

thx. Yeah if I upgrade Lightroom, I may as well upgrade PS too.

 

Rob_Cullen
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 2, 2022

Be absolutely sure you subscribe to the "Photography Plan" which is the only plan that includes Lightroom-CLASSIC   (the 'latest' version update for your 'perpetual' v5) and Photoshop.

$9.99 PHOTOGRAPHY PLAN (USA)

 

 

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
Inspiring
January 31, 2022

I was in your same position several years ago when  LR 6. I then watched a video by (I believe) Laura Shoe on the differences on LR6, to the then current Lightroom Classic, and was sold on the new abilities. I may the switch to the subscription model (which I don't like) and haven't looked back.

 

"I doesn't really explain how theres been any improvement to the standard stuff of the exposure, contrast and sharpening side of the software" One of the things I've learned, as you are exposed to new features, you decide to include them in your workflow. As to yours, the new Masking capabilities which automatically finds subject and sky are assume. I can select the subject, and just apply changes to it, rather than the picutre. However, one hidden feature is that you can copy and invert the mask to work on everythin g that is not the subject. I use that frequently when I want to make the subject stand out mor than the background.

 

There are also tools like DeHaze which you would find useful. I just discovered how well it helps bring out snow/ice festures. See attached.

 

I'd suggest doing a couple of backups of your LR5 catalog the try the latest LrC. A good book to help is the Lightroom Queen Lightroom Classic Quick Start Guide which is free.

 

 

HmmokthenAuthor
Inspiring
February 2, 2022

thanks for the suggestions. Hadn't heard of Laura Shoe before, she has a ton of videos, some of which are behind payment; I dont suppose you know what year it was from?

 

Re: the subscription, I think a lot of people don't like it; I prefer the stability of buying a product that I can use whenever I like and spend more money to upgrade the product if there are new features that make upgrading worthwhile. 

Inspiring
February 2, 2022

You can try Googling for differences. There is also this link here that will help. It's comparing from LR6 but is close.

dj_paige
Legend
January 31, 2022

Am I really missing out by using Lightroom 5?

 

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

and also

 

Yes.

 

You are missing out greatly. There are soooooo many features since LR 5 that help improve the appearance of your photos. If you are only interested in "standard stuff of exposure contrast and sharepening" you are limiting the appearance of your photos to lower quality than it could be.

 

Personally, I'm glad I can produce much higher image quality today than I could using LR 5. And you won't realize how much you are missing if you are stuck in the "standard stuff of exposure contrast and sharepening" mindset, you won't even see the possibilities, but they are there. Its the difference between driving a 1928 automobile and a 2022 vehicle, both will get you there, but the difference is staggering.

HmmokthenAuthor
Inspiring
February 2, 2022

Hi, thanks for the reply. I also regularly use healing tool, sometimes the adjustment brush and rarely the colour sliders. What other things could I be using to get higher quality?

 

Atm I can use the 1928 (LR 5) whenever I wish; If I want to use the newer model, then I will have to keep paying for it.....forever. It is not backwards compatible, so I won't be able to use LR 5 again, if unforseen problems should arise. Thx

dj_paige
Legend
February 2, 2022
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I also regularly use healing tool, sometimes the adjustment brush and rarely the colour sliders. What other things could I be using to get higher quality?


By @Hmmokthen

 

All the new changes since LR 5. I don't have a complete list. Others have provided some examples.

 

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Atm I can use the 1928 (LR 5) whenever I wish; If I want to use the newer model, then I will have to keep paying for it.....forever. It is not backwards compatible, so I won't be able to use LR 5 again, if unforseen problems should arise. Thx

 

The old software will not run forever. Operating system changes or hardware changes will get in the way of LR 5 functioning at some point. This is already happening to Mac users. The 1928 auto had no air conditioning, making your ride less pleasant. But if that's all you ever drove, you wouldn't know you were missing it. Lr 5 has similar lack of features, and the new features might (probably will) make you happy.