Auto Cropping raw imports

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July 24, 2023
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Help please - new user, all Raw imports that I have loaded are showing up cropped, not the same aspect as shot. In Library mode the info in right panel shows actual shot dimensions, then beneath it the dimesions of the viewed Raw file long side is the same but short side is cropped top and bottom. Is there some button I have clicked on by mistake that has created this issue. Note if I process that file in Topaz Ai and save into Lightroom as a DNG file it shows with correct dimensions - ie not cropped. Any help would be appreciated.

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GoldingD

Legend

Ah, with the other members reply's, I understand what is occurring.

So you are applying in camera aspect ratio other than default. That apply's to the embedded JPEG, and would apply to an actual JPEG file, not the RAW data. And as you are importing with Adobe Defaults ( actually, from your reply, that setting is none?) the metadata included in the RAW file that could tell LrC to apply a crop, is not used.

JohanElzenga

Community Expert

Ah, with the other members replys, I understand whst is occuring.

So you are applying in camera aspect ratio other than default. That apply's to the embedded JPEG, and would apply to an actual JPEG file, not the RAW data. And as you are importing with Adobe Defaults ( actually, from your reply, that setting is none?) the metadata included in the RAW file that could tell LrC to apply a crop, is not used.

By @GoldingD

It's the other way round. A crop is used (see his screenshot).

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Kevin3125336879v2Author

Participant

The camera is a M43 sensor and that is the aspect that should be shown, it is not it is a cropped version probably 16/9.

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richardplondon

Community Expert

With some cameras, if an aspect ratio is selected in the camera menu that is different than the native aspect ratio, LrC will read that metadata on the Raw file and will automatically apply that different aspect ratio as an initial crop - to match the live preview seen in the camera and also to match a camera generated JPG. In that case it should be possible to Reset the crop and show the entire image area that has been Raw converted by LrC.

With other camera models and also in the case of other software, that in-camera choice of aspect ratio may be ignored - I expect this is what happens with Topaz AI.

My camera sensor is natively 3:2 and if I select 16:9 in the camera, I see as expected, the top and bottom of the overall image concealed in this same way both in live view while shooting, and in the Catalog once first imported. But still present within the underlying Raw data. I tend to shoot in the same aspect as the sensor for this reason, and crop for usage only within LrC, as a later step.

Some cameras have a sensor that suits multiple aspect ratios, by enclosing all their standard shapes. But not all of this containing area may be designed to be seen, with shadowing or whatever. So choice of aspect ratio at time of shooting, may be more of an important and committed choice than first appears.

JohanElzenga

Community Expert

This must indeed be a camera setting that Lightroom reads and applies. I do not think that you can save a crop in a develop preset, but as I type this on my iPad I cannot check it (you can't in Lightroom mobile, that I did check).

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Kevin3125336879v2Author

Participant

No it is not a camera setting - the native M43 sensor aspect is as shot - what Lightroom is doing is showing a cropped version probably 16/9 and I have not told Lightroom to do that!!.