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dschranz
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February 1, 2018
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Book Module Problem - Previous Book photos showing up in new Created book

  • February 1, 2018
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I just finished a Book in Lightroom (saved and sent off to Blurb).  I now want to move onto a new book with photos in another collection (no collection overlap).  When I go to the Book module, the pics from my last book show up along with the pics in my "new" collection.  (in the Library and Develop modules they do not show up).   If I do an auto Book layout, all the pics along with the unwanted ones are used.  Has anyone experience this and if so, how do I clear out this "cached pic issue"

    Correct answer Rob_Cullen

    Agree, so my work-around is to-  (not as hard as it may look!)

     

    DO this ONCE-

    1) Create a [Saved Book] as a 'Saved Book Collection'.

    2) Go to Grid View [G]

    3) Remove ALL photos from the Saved Book Collection. (ie. Empty the Collection)

    4) Rename this as a "Book Template", with NO photos included.

     

    Then when I start any, and every, new book , BEFORE I enter the Book Module,  do-

    1) [Duplicate] my "Book Template" Collection

    2) Rename the copy as desired current new book

    3) Drag all the photos from the Library to this Book Collection. (Hint: set as the 'Target' Collection)

    4) [Double-click] my New Book collection to edit in Book module.

     

    11 replies

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    Craig26852427ml3v
    Participant
    September 12, 2024

    Hi all. This bug (or family of bugs) seems to be at least 6 years old. Hey Adobe - Listen up. The book module needs love. It has bizarre behavior (as discussed in this thread) and sometimes loses entire books, text boxes, photos, etc. It's buggy. And slow.

     

    Here's a sequence that seems to work for me. First, I create a new collection that has the photos I believe I want to use for a new book. Then I go into the Book module. Instead of using "Create Saved Book", I right click the collection I want to use, and choose "Create Book".  This has worked every time.  Seems like this should be the same thing, but using the "Create Saved Book" button makes a mess as discussed previously (although not always), where the right click option works as expected.

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    September 12, 2024

    Hi @Craig26852427ml3v  I am curious!

    " I right click the collection I want to use, and choose "Create Book". "-   I don't have a "Create Book" option when I [Right-Click] a Collection. Can you explain more or show a screen-clip?

    And FYI- Creating a 'Saved Book Collection', AND ALWAYS re-opening the book from the 'Saved Book Collection', is the only way you preserve ALL your book edits. A Saved Book Collection is something special and not the same as a standard Collection. Any time you go to the Book module from the top Menu [Book] you are creating a new book.

    The problem of extra images appearing in a NEW book can still occur but often clicking the [Clear Book] tab will remove any unwanted images from the filmstrip, or go back to Grid view [G] and delete unwanted images from the 'Saved Book Collection'.

     

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    Craig26852427ml3v
    Participant
    September 12, 2024

    The "create book" right click option only appears when inside the book module.  And Yes I have leanred that the saved book is a special collection.

    PhotoCitizen
    PhotoCitizen
    Inspiring
    September 8, 2024

    The easy workaround for this still existing problem (as of 2024 and version 13.5.1 of Lightroom Classic) is this:

    Drag the photo onto the page and, then, add the page template (not the other way around).

    This works for me.

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    September 8, 2024

    Hi @PhotoCitizen  Welcome to this long forum thread, but I don't think your suggested workflow is relevant to this thread topic. It is possible to add a photo to a 'blank' page but the problem addressed in this thread is about many unwanted photos appearing on the book filmstrip that were not intended for a new book.

    Do you have a different question for the answer you gave?

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    Michael:C
    Participant
    April 27, 2023

    I am working on an album in the Book module and I went away to add photos to the folder.  When I came back the album in completely blank!  The 'filmstrip at the bottom still shows the pictures used with a 1 and the pages have outlines of the photos bu no photos are visible.  Can anyone help please!  Thanks Michael 

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    April 27, 2023

    Hi Michael, 

    First, make a Duplicate of your Saved Book Collection (by a Right-Click and [Duplicate Book] ) -work with the duplicate.

    Have you created a Saved Book Collection from the tab above the book pages window?

    Can you go to Library Grid view, select the Saved Book Collection to see all the images in Library Grid view?

    If you click the mouse cursor on a book filmstrip image NUMBER,  does a page of the book go highlighted to indicate where this image is in the book? Does clicking in the Photo Cell then re-populate the cell with the image?

     

    Occassionally when images do not appear (eg. just grey screen) it might indicate Graphic Card problems- Check to see if your GPU has the latest driver from the OEM.

    Also try turning off [Use Graphics Processor] in the Performance tab of the Preferences dialog.

     

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    Michael:C
    Participant
    April 28, 2023
    Hi Rob
    Thanks for your very helpful advice. Copy of book made
    Book has been saved using the tab.
    Yes all images visible in Library Grid View
    The page does not highlight when I click on the filmstrip
    No clicking on the cell does not repopulate the cell
    I have tried changing the Graphics processor setting but to no avail
    I have the latest driver. However when I go to Photoshop it says you need a
    new driver and I believe the computer needs to be upgraded (although I've
    put in a new driver and it has a lot of RAM).
    Any further advice?
    Thanks again.
    Michael
    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    December 7, 2021

    A concise answer from the Lightroom Queen is-

    "If you click the Clear Book button (at the top of the screen) and then reselect the folder or collection, you should be down to just the wanted photos."

    https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/lr-book-problem.44216/#post-1292960

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    as73
    Inspiring
    December 8, 2021

    Hmmm...this definitely doesn't work (as far as I can see).

    Alan.

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    December 8, 2021

    Hi @as73  Just tested my suggestion- works for me.  In screen-clips-

    1) Started a new Book- Filmstrip pulled in 485 photos!

    2) Created a Saved Book Collection- clicked the Tab

    3) The Saved Book Collection contains 485 photos

    4) In GRID View -Deleted ALL the 485 photos

    5) Selected SIX photos for my book and added them to the Collection

    6) Result- Six photos on the filmstrip- to use for Auto-layout, etc, for my design.

     

    And a Copy of an 'empty' book collection as a Template-

     

     

     

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    wpphoto
    Participant
    December 7, 2021

    My workaround was to create a collection of the photos for my book, and then to export that collection as a new catalog.  Once I'm working in the new catalog, none of the other older images can piggy-back onto the new book project.  Granted, this works best if i'm not needing to go back to the main catalog to select more images.  Once finished with the book, I plan to re-import it back into the primary catalog.  A benefit for me is the new catalog is much sparser, with no need to sort through my 200+ collection sets. Not to say that LR shouldn't be working as intended, however.  I do wish they would fix this issue.

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    as73
    Inspiring
    December 8, 2021

    This is not a bad idea (although ridiculous that you would need to go to this much effort...!)

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    February 19, 2020

    Try this workflow-

    1) Create a Standard Collection with the selected photos you want for the Book,

    2) Click back on a folder in the folder panel, and for a 'New' book- Open the Book module from the top menu,

    3) Immediately [Clear Layout] and [Clear Book] (I do not know the subtle difference as yet!!!) so the book main window is empty with no pages or images.   Ignore the images you see on the filmstrip!

    4) Stay in the Book module and select the Standard Collection (of your book images),  (I find I then see only the photos from the Standard Collection in the filmstrip)

    5) Now click the tab to [Create a Saved Book] Collection.

    6) Now always re-open this book from this Saved Book Collection, where you can both remove photos, and add new additional photos that will appear on the book filmstrip (at the end!).

    7) Delete the Standard Collection unless you want to keep for other purposes. It will not affect, or be used by, your book in future.

    😎 Finally start designing your book, either by 'Auto Layout' or adding pages and images one-by-one.

     

    You can also select and delete ALL the photos from a Saved Book Collection (in Library Grid view), then add selected photos from the Library to this 'empty' Saved Book Collection.

    And some other similar forum links on this topic-

    https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/photo-books-keep-pre-filling-new-pages-with-random-images-in-lr-cc/td-p/10424942?page=1

    https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/book-module-filmstrip-clearing-problems

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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      as73
      Inspiring
      December 7, 2021

      This doesn't seem to work for me. So infuriating that this problem still exists...!!

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      Ryan Smith Photography
      Inspiring
      February 18, 2020

      I'm still having this issue a couple of years later. I've tried clearing book layouts, creating book collections then removing all images, the checkbox for selecting only used images, everything I can think of. Still every time I create a new saved book there are like 2000 previous images from other books added to the collection.  I can't find any way to stop this. 

        evgenioshadji
        evgenioshadji
        Participant
        September 6, 2018

        Hello, I know this is not the answer you want to hear but this is a workaround.

        As suggested click the button 'clear book'. Then click 'auto layout'. New images but unfortunately and old images will be added in the new book.

        now click again clear book and again auto layout. Hopefully your problem will be solved.

          erichschlaikjer
          erichschlaikjer
          Known Participant
          March 11, 2020

          This works for me. I had over a thousand pictures in my last book collection, and I could not make them go away when starting a new book. Doing "Auto Layout" and "Clear Book" was the key, although I needed to do it twice.

           

          Unbelieveable that this bug is two years old.

           

          The "Collections" menu down at the bottom near the film strip (in book mode) appears to do nothing. It's just there to infuriate a person even more.

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            Paolo741
            Inspiring
            July 13, 2018

            Same here! Looks like the problem is that the book module is selecting all the pictures also from not selected collection! See the image...therefore the book is building up using ALL the pictures! This is BAD THING!! Need help here!

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              Diederick van der Snoek
              Participating Frequently
              March 17, 2018

              I do experience something similar. Whenever I add a layout to a page one of the photo boxes is filled with a photo of the previous book I made. The photo is added at that moment also to the book collection.

              This bug is recently introduced, I cannot be completely sure, but I guess it is introduced in 7.1 or 7.2.

              While experimenting a bit further, first I noticed it does not happen always. Thereafter, I got (for every layout assignment):

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