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Camera Raw edits through Bridge are not showing

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September 15, 2021
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Hello,

I prefer to edit my raw images in Camera Raw through Adobe Bridge because it's SO much faster than Lightroom. However, I love Lightroom for its cataloging features and overall viewing of images.

So first I edit in Adobe Camera Raw, then I import the images into my Lightroom catalog.

The problem is that when I import raw images into Lightroom, it does not keep any of my raw edits.

I've tried both .dng and .cr3 files, along with embedding the xmp in the dng file and also as a sidecar item. According to this article, all I need to do is ensure that the .xmp files are in the same folder when importing into lightroom. Unfortnately that doesnt work

How can I view my raw edits made in Camera Raw when importing them into Lightroom?

Thanks in advance

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Correct answer Todd Shaner

Concerning the LrC performance try resetting LrC Preferences file as outlined in the below article.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

If the performance issues remain go to Edit Preferences Performance, set 'Use Graphics Processor to Off, and Close and Relaunch LrC. See if that helps. If not try changing your display profile as outlined at the below article.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-change-my-monitor-profile-to-check-whether-its-corrupted/

There are more LrC performance tips in the below article that might be helpful.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/optimize-performance-lightroom.html

Concerning the Camera Raw edits not appearing in LrC try resetting the Camera Raw Prefernces file. Open Bridge, hold down the CTRL/CMD key and go to Edit> Camera Raw Preferences. At the prompt select Yes. Try editing another image file and then import it into LrC. Do the settings now appear inside LrC?

DdeGannes

Community Expert

@Blasty, you stated “ DdeGannes said ... "If there is XMP data available at import to LrC it will be read."
This only happens if I choose to update the meta data from the file."

Yes I did make that but I just wish to clarify. LrC will read info from the XMP file if it is present at the time of import.

It will not happen to imports done prior to activating the option, however it will continue to do so for future imports so long as the option “ Automatically write xmp to file “ is active.

LrC does not automatically read info made to the XMP files outside of the application.

Some other related info, LrC is a complete standalone application and it functions by it's self and it does not require any other Adobe application for it to function. It does not require Photoshop and the Camera Raw plugin to be installed.

LrC has the functions of Camera Raw plugin built-in the application.

LrC does not communicate with Bridge, that's why you would need to activate the write metadata to the file either automatically or manually so Bridge can apply the edits in Camera Raw.

For LrC the info is in the Catalog file.

For Bridge / Camera Raw the info is in the file.

LrC, Library Module and Develop Module are an alternative to Bridge / Camera Raw.

They function differently.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.3; PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

Todd Shaner

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Forgot to add to make sure you are using the latest versions of Camera Raw, LrC, and PS. In LrC go to Help> About Lightroom Classic, which should show as 10.4 Release and Camera Raw 13.4. Next open PS and go to Help> About Photoshop, which should show 22.5.1. Next go to Help> About Plugins> Camera Raw, which should show as 13.4.0.872.

Todd ShanerCorrect answer

Legend

Concerning the LrC performance try resetting LrC Preferences file as outlined in the below article.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

If the performance issues remain go to Edit Preferences Performance, set 'Use Graphics Processor to Off, and Close and Relaunch LrC. See if that helps. If not try changing your display profile as outlined at the below article.

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-change-my-monitor-profile-to-check-whether-its-corrupted/

There are more LrC performance tips in the below article that might be helpful.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/optimize-performance-lightroom.html

Concerning the Camera Raw edits not appearing in LrC try resetting the Camera Raw Prefernces file. Open Bridge, hold down the CTRL/CMD key and go to Edit> Camera Raw Preferences. At the prompt select Yes. Try editing another image file and then import it into LrC. Do the settings now appear inside LrC?

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BlastyAuthor

Inspiring

Alright here's an update. Thank you to everyone who has given advice, technically the first issue I had is resolved from @Todd Shaner's reply.

After I cleared my preference files advised by Todd, LR started showing me an icon on images that indicates the raw data has been edited outside of LR and an option to udpate it. I think that's the best I can get, no matter waht you have to manually choose to update the metadata so it displays your edits in ACR from Bridge. It's disappointing becauseusing it the other way around (LR to Bridge), automatically shows the edits I've made to raw files. Bridge updates the preview in the filmstrip and the file when editing in ACR. LR requires you to choose to udpate it. I dont understand that behaviou that, but that's resolved now.

I've marked it as solved, thank you!

Since my original question has been resovled, I've created a new thread to ask about the overall performance, right here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lightroom-classic-is-slow-causing-me-to-use-bridge-for-my-initial-image-review-amp-edits/m-p/12386817#M243669

Todd Shaner

Legend

"It's disappointing becauseusing it the other way around (LR to Bridge), automatically shows the edits I've made to raw files."

This only happens "automatically" if you have Edit> Catalog Settings> Metadata 'Automatically write changes into XMP' is checked. When doing your edting from Bridge in Camera Raw I recomend unchecking this setting and manually use 'Save Metdata to File' (CTRL/CMD S) AFTER applying edits in LrC. Also I suggest unchecking that setting and restart LrC since it can cause performance issues. Try that and see if it helps speed things up.

DdeGannes

Community Expert

@GoldingD, that's an interesting article. It does indicate that the best option is make a choice LrC and ignore Bridge / ACR which is what I did when I adopted Lightroom when it was released in 2007. Since that time I do not use ACR and avoid dealing with the complexity of managing XMP sidecar files.

At the time Lightroom was released there was a significant number of Photoshop users that were not interested in adopting Lightroom in favor of ACR and I believe this has persisted to the present time.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.3; PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

GoldingD

Legend

Oh, I have never considered using Bridge at all, nor using ACR outside of LrC. But, for those very involved edits with lots of local adjustments, especially on 4K and beyond, it may make sense.

On a side subject, was not aware of the many preference settings in ACR, many should be in LrC. Will have to explore adding a Request fir Changes, Idea. in LrC fir more preference settings.

Researching the OP's problem has shown some interesting items.

GoldingD

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I love Adobe Bridge ... my only complaint is it doenst catalog like LR. Navigating through a images, even images in the same folder, is far faster than LR. 
 
I'm starting to think LR isnt working up to speed for me as others, because to me Bridge is literally 2x faster. LR is incredibly slow.

You are literally the first Bridge user that has provided a great reason for using Bridge in your workflow.

At least, the first to properly explain it as such.

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BlastyAuthor

Inspiring

Do you feel Bridge is faster at than LR for navigating images and doing camera raw edits? Thats really the only reason why I use Bridge over LR.

I love LR's cataloging, but can't stand how it slows up one me. And that's only with a small catalog. Bridge just seems better at handing previews and navigation.

I wish it wasnt' like that, I'd prefer to use LR 100%.

(thanks for helping me with posts, I've contacted a moderator to see whats going on. A new post I made got instantly marked as spam and wont show in the thread list. I assume everything I post is being marked as spam somehow, causing this disappearing issue.)

GoldingD

Legend

This link, might discuss your issue:

https://lightroomkillertips.com/adobe-bridge-for-lightroom-classic-people/

DdeGannes

Community Expert

At Todd, thanks for that info, just keeping myself informed.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.3; PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

GoldingD

Legend

You might want to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKHhV390W4A

interesting, brings up some ideas to requst in LrC, more preferences.

GoldingD

Legend

Administrator

Can you assist the author in the issue of postings, authors reply's in authors discussion, going missing every 5 minutes.

Literally watched it happen

GoldingD

Legend

Sat here watching the thread, sure enough the authors latest reply went missing. My erroneous replay did not.

As an assist, While watching, I kept a copy in my clipboard, As an assist, the info below is pasted:

From author

Just to make sure I'm clear, I'm not referring to the preview image in LR, I'm referring to the actual edits seen in the develop module. For exmple, if I change the white balance to daylight on a raw file, when I open it in Lightroom the white balance is still "as shot". It only updates if I right click and choose "read metadata from file". Once I do that, the white balance is set to daylight. 
I just can't help but feel there is an automatic way to do this. It seems very odd considering they both use camera raw. And it works form LR to Bridge, just not Bridge to LR.
DdeGannes said ... "If there is XMP data available at import to LrC it will be read."
This only happens if I choose to update the meta data from the file.
About the differences in program speed, I thought Lightroom was notoriously slower because it catalogs everything, creates its own database. Is that really not the case?
Lightroom starts out fine but once I start doing edits it's slow to respond. Especially when I use adjustments layers with a mask. And I only have about 75 images in this catalog, its very small. Once I start making edits to images, eventually things slow down. Selecting "Library" module will take a few seconds, trying to move to another image will be delayed a bit. Overall, it just slows down all together.
I've made sure I'm fully updated with all software. I'm running Big Sur 11.5.2 and latest Adobe software. I have 32GB of memory inside a 27" iMac with 4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7. And my lightroom catalog is on an external SSD. All my data is on external SSD drives since I have an iMac and the one drive inside is not that large.
I'd prefer to only use one application, but the speed and effeciency in using Bridge is noticeable. Lightroom has always been sluggish for me compared to Bridge. 
Any ideas?

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