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karinr70603601
karinr70603601
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September 17, 2023
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cropped exported images

  • September 17, 2023
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When exporting my raw files to jpg the files are being cropped. I have not set any resizing options in the export settings. Files originally are 6960*4660 pixels. Exported jpg files are cropped to 6960*3904 pixels. Again I did not set any sizing options in export dialogue. When processing same files in ON1, exported files contain all the original pixels 6990*4660. Why is Lightroom cropping my images while I don't ask it to do so?

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    GoldingD
    GoldingD
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    September 18, 2023

    You have missed a point about LrC Import of RAW files as it can currently occur. That being while LrC used to completely ignore any in camera settings (other than ISO, F stop, shutter speed)  LrC can (with user intervention) apply those in camera settings these days.

     

    A point of view that LrC should be true to the RAW data, a purest viewpoint, has gone the way of a DoDo bird. 

     

    That is why I asked about your LrC RAW Develop defaults. Can you verify that those are not set to camera? A screen capture can help.

     

     

     

     

    karinr70603601
    karinr70603601Author
    Participating Frequently
    September 17, 2023

    Sorry for type. It has nothing do do with export but with import

    karinr70603601
    karinr70603601Author
    Participating Frequently
    September 17, 2023

    I just found out that is has nothing to do with export but with export of images but with import. Lightroom crops the images according to camera settings. That is absolutely strange behaviour because raw processing should be what it says it to be: processing all the raw data. You don't want any camera prests to be applied to the raw file. Thats why we shoot and process raw files. ON1 does understand this far better then Adobe does,

    JohanElzenga
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    JohanElzengaCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    September 17, 2023
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    I just found out that is has nothing to do with export but with export of images but with import. Lightroom crops the images according to camera settings. That is absolutely strange behaviour because raw processing should be what it says it to be: processing all the raw data. You don't want any camera prests to be applied to the raw file. Thats why we shoot and process raw files. ON1 does understand this far better then Adobe does,


    By @karinr70603601

     

    If you set a crop in camera, then it makes sense that Lightroom uses this crop. If you don't want that crop, then why did you set that crop in the camera? Cropping in Lightroom is an overlay only, however. All the raw data are still there. You can simply reset the crop to get the full sensor size again.

     

    -- Johan W. Elzenga
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    richardplondonCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    September 18, 2023

    I strongly disagree. That is not what raw peocessing is about.


    (analogy): Raw does not have any pre-fixed White Balance. But when you have in-camera chosen a particular White Balance, or else when its AutoWB circuitry identifies a particular White Balance, this both affects the in-camera preview and also gets written to the Raw file as metadata. That metadata then is read in by LrC, which sets initial default processing accordingly, assuming that is "As Shot" for WB.

     

    When a different aspect ratio is chosen in-camera than the native one, presumably because that is what one wants to see, that in effect becomes an "As Shot" crop so far as LrC is concerned. No impairment of the editability of the Raw, simply a user choice within the camera, influencing what particular initial processing treatment of the photo is seen.

     

    It is not possible to display a Raw image without any particular WB at all, nor without any particular aspect ratio at all. LrC has to find something specific to use.

     

    The environment where you control this 'something' is usually the Raw converter. Some processing defaults are settable there (such as, whether you want to see As Shot value, or something else, for the iniital WB). For those processing defaults where LrC will listen to camera suggestion, you can set things differently in the camera menu and that will change what result happens.

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