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Inspiring
December 31, 2023
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Denoise speed is the reverse of what I expected...

  • December 31, 2023
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This came up because I need to do a presentation on some of the new tools in a week, and wanted to make sure the laptop was up to the challenge of doing Denoise and Gen Fill and Gen Expand and so on.

 

I found an old discussion from April where the answer kept being "get a faster CPU".  In my case, the faster CPU takes longer, and neither computer is even using the cpu for Denoise.

 

Desktop is i9-12900, 64GB, NVidia 4060 Ti 8GB, laptop is a 4-year old Dell 7740 with an i9-9880, 64GB, and a Radeon RTX 3000 6GB.  Both systems are Windows 11 Pro running 23H2.  Both systems have a 25GB cache and everything is living on NVMe SSDs on both systems.

 

Same image on both systems, in the same LR catalog (copied the whole catalog from desktop to laptop.)  Image is from an Alpha 1 in crop sensor mode, so it's about 20 megapixels.  Small.

I ran LR Denoise on the image on the desktop.  It consistently takes 1:53 +/- about 2 seconds - close to 2 minutes.

I ran LR Denoise on the image on the laptop.  It consistently takes 15 seconds +/- about 2 seconds.

 

The results from both look the same and while processing both systems ACT the same.  On the desktop the GPU goes to 94-98% busy for the entire time and the CPU sits at around 3%.  On the laptop the GPU goes to 95-99% busy and the CPU sits at around 5-6% the entire time.

 

On the desktop I turned OFF the GPU, restarted and got a popup telling me things would faster if I turned the GPU on, and I pressed CANCEL!  Ran Denoise on the desktop and the GPU STILL went to 95-98% busy.

 

Everything else in Lightroom (and Photoshop) that I've tried that takes long enough to measure is considerably faster on the desktop - Generative fill doing the same thing on the same image is always 30-40% faster on the desktop.  LR Photo Merge is faster on the desktop.  LR Select Subject (mask) is 3.1 +/- .2 on the desktop with the GPU OFF, and 5.3 +/- .2 on the laptop.   With the GPU ON and Lightroom restarted, the Select Subject is about 1.4 seconds, so significantly faster, as is my pereception of most things when I do a gross comparison of desktop to laptop.

 

The one anomoly is Denoise speed. 

 

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Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 1, 2024
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I found an old discussion from April where the answer kept being "get a faster CPU".

By @DavePinMinn

 

If you have the link to that discussion, it would be interesting to review. Just about every other discussion about AI Denoise since it was released has talked about how critically important it is to have a recent, powerful GPU, and how unimportant the CPU is.

Inspiring
January 1, 2024

I have no idea how to point y'all at the discussion, but it's "Lightroom Denoise is Remarkably slow" in THIS forum.  It may have been that one that got dozens of replies with "just like everybody else that's complaining about Denoise, you need a faster CPU", OR it may have been one of the other ones I found........

 

In general, if I can find a clue ANYWHERE, I'd rather do that than have to ask a question in here.  Not that y'all aren't great, but my questions are usually small things that are annoyances rather than disasters.

 

But, other than the sidetrip, does anybody have a useful idea why a 4-year-old, midrange laptop is running Denoise 8 TIMES faster than my desktop?  Is there something magical about an elderly Radeon RTX 3000 from 2019 that it can do Denoise faster than an NVidia 4060?  That would be depressing...

Ian Lyons
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Community Expert
January 1, 2024

You desktop computer may not be using the GPU (typically due to a driver issue). You can check whether the computer is using 'Full Acceleration' by opening LrC Preference > Performance tab. The text below the GPU name/type should be as shown in attached screenshot (I.e. Your system automatically supports full acceleration).

 

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 31, 2023

"I found an old discussion from April where the answer kept being "get a faster CPU".  In my case, the faster CPU takes longer, and neither computer is even using the cpu for Denoise"

No idea what discussions you are referring to, but it is clearly wrong. Denoise is very GPU intensive, not CPU intensive. As you noticed.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga