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February 20, 2024
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How can I easily enter Compare view after Importing from a Catalog with "create virtual copy"?

  • February 20, 2024
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I once again beckon the Adobe wizards of this forum, and woud like to thank you all upfront for your help!

 

 

EDIT: This post was initially written before I discovered the "preserve old settings as a virtual copy" option. I am leaving that original post up, at the bottom of this post, in order to have some frame of reference for where I'm coming from. Though I hope what immediately preceeds will concisely explain my current question:

 

I've imported a bunch of file from another catalog, and preserved the old settings as a virtual copy. So now in the "Previous Import" folder, I'm shown all the imported images, with a little "2" in the top left of the thumbnail, of course in reference to the virtual copy which was created to preserve any pre-existing edits. My question now is, is there any way to, in the least amount of clicks possible... open up Compare View? it seems I cannot do it from within the Previous Import folder that I am shown after import, despite the thumbnail corner "2" referencing this virtual copy. Normally with a virtual copy, I can click that number to expand and contract the stack, thus in this case, that would make it possible to compare the images right from this Previous Import folder. I understand in theory that the Virtual Copy is not a previous import, so perhaps is that way its not letting me expand the stack to see it from here? Must I manually navigate to the folder where the image lives, and instead select both images from there in order to enter Compare View? I've got hundreds of images to review, and so it will be quite cumbersome to have to do this extra step for every single image (most of which live in seperate dated folders in this catalog). Thank you.

 

Original post:

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So I am importing from, lets call it Catalog2, into my current catalog, lets call it Catalog1.

 

A portion of the Catalog2 images are new to Catalog1 entirely, and thus the import is straightforward.

 

The other portion of images in Catalog2 makes this process a little more confusing for me. These images already exist in Catalog 1, though in most cases, I woud like to override the image edits, if any, that exist in Catalog 1 with those from Catalog2. Note that I said "in most cases".

 

Were I to be certain that want to overide every single image edit (without needing to manually evaluate the edits of any given dupe image in Catalog1 against its corresponding edit Catalog2), I believe this would be a fairly straightforward process. I would simply Import from Catalog, and then in the import popup, under "Changed Existing Photos", I would select "metadata and develop settings only" or "metadata, develop settings, and negative files" and proceed with the import. However in my current case, it is possible that I would like to discard edits on certain images from Catalog2 in favor of their Catalog1 versions, and vice versa.

 

My issue with all of this is that I cannot seem to figure out a way to manually review the differences between Catalog1 and Catalog2 dupes so that I can make this decision. It seems to be an all or nothing decision that I must make from the Import From Catalog popup. This is unfortunate.

 

The best way (although not was ideal as being automatically presented with something akin to Compare View from within this Import From Catalog popup) I can imagine would be if, Ideally, I could untick a "Don't import suspected duplicates" button from this Import From Catalog popup (as I can during a normal import), and then for File Handling, select "Add New Photos to Catalog Without Moving", proceed with the import, and then just either use Compare View or navigate back and forth between the instance of the file that came from the Catalog2 import against the pre-existing Catalog1 instance, assess which edit I want to keep, discard the other, and move on.

 

If anyone has any insights for me I would greatly appreciate it.

 

(P.S. oh, and btw, side note, that Replace option under Changed Existing Photos to replace "Metadata, develop settings, and negative files"....why is that "negative files" option even there? If its an exsiting file in the first place, why would anyone ever need to replace the negative file, which lightroom never alters in the first place?)

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javij
Participant
July 22, 2024

The following comes to mind. Before importing the catalog select all virtual copies of the current catalog and send them to a collection "previous virtual copies". Then, import the new catalog by checking the option "Preserve old settings as a virtual copy". 

After that, the newly set pictures are sent to a good collectionThe following comes to mind. Before importing the catalog select all virtual copies of the current catalog and send them to a collection "previous virtual copies". Import the new catalog by checking the option "Preserve old settings as a virtual copy".
After that, the newly imported photographs are sent "Import comparison" (optionally marked as yellow), then all virtual copies that are not in the collection "previous virtual copies" are taken and sent to the collection "Import comparison" (optionally in red). In that collection, and after unstacking them all, you have them all alternated (in yellow and red) more or less ready to compare.

Again, for me, I would prefer the wizard option to be "preserve NEW settings as a virtual copy", since the ones in the master catalog usually predominate and there is not yet (or I don't know how to do it) the option to mark several photos and set them as masters.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 20, 2024

You can import the catalog and choose to keep the existing edits as virtual copies. Then indeed use Compare to decide which one you prefer. If you prefer the virtual copy, then use the menu 'Set virtual copy as master'. This switches the virtual copy and the master, so in the end you can filter on virtual copies and delete them all, knowing that the masters are now your choice for each image.

 

Why would anyone ever need to replace the negative file, which lightroom never alters in the first place? I can think of one situation: if the master is a tiff or psd, then it is possible that you edited this image in Photoshop by using 'Edit Original'.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
javij
Participant
July 22, 2024

The problem is that you cannot choose several photos and set them as masters at the same time, you have to go one by one on each picture and also from the top menu, not even the contextual one.
It would be nice if the wizard could offer to set as virtual copies both old and new one or even set a keyword to help locate them later . Where to send suggestions to Adobe?

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 22, 2024

Go to the "Ideas" section to file a feature request.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga