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September 19, 2017
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How do I retain edit settings after re-importing?

  • September 19, 2017
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I was having some trouble with my libraries in that I renamed a folder and couldn't get Lightroom to recognise the new location. I ended up just deleting the folder (in Lightroom) and reimporting the photos.

My mistake was assuming that Lightroom would remember all of the settings of the photos I had edited (like Photoshop does when dealing with RAW files)

Anyway now it's looking like I'm going to have to spend hours and hours retouching 350+ photos again.

Is there any way back?

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    Correct answer dj_paige

    Re-importing is not the solution when LR cannot find the photos. (Deleting the photos in LR eliminates the edits, this also deletes the edits and the edits are not recoverable, unless you had a backup of your LR catalog)

    The solution is to reconnect the photos to the new folder location using these instructions: Adobe Lightroom - Find moved or missing files and folders

    Better yet, rename the folder in Lightroom.

    Better yet, don't use folder names or locations (or file names) to achieve organization, use Lightroom tools such as keywords and other metadata to achieve organization.

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    stuontourAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    September 20, 2017

    Thank you for this.

    Abambo
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 19, 2017

    Photoshop does not retain your RAW edits. Adobe Camera Raw does store the edits you do in a sidecar file. If you delete this file, your edits in ACR will be gone too.

    Lightroom uses a database and deleting a picture in Lr basically deletes the data associated to that picture (ie your edits) and eventually, depending on your answers, also the file itself.

    Fortunately, Lightroom asks at regular intervals for database backups to be done. If and only if you have such backups, you may get back all of your edits except the latest, done after the backup. The Lightroom Queen is a great source for Lightroom information. Here is probably the article you will need for restoring your edits: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/partial-restore-backup-catalog/

    ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
    Community Expert
    September 19, 2017

    The reason that your edits to Raw files made from Photoshop were remembered, was because when you clicked "Open" (or "Done", but not "Cancel") from the Adobe Camera Raw dialog, some updated metadata describing your latest conversion settings, were written alongside the Raw file on disk. In the case of a proprietary Raw file, that means in a sidecar file with the extension ".xmp". In the case of a DNG file, or in the case of a bitmap file (such as JPG) which has been opened into ACR, those conversion settings are stored within the main image file.

    When you return to the same Raw again, using ACR, those settings are found on disk and shown to you once more.

    If you were to import such a file to Lightroom, the same thing would happen - in that these conversion settings would be copied into the Catalog, and thereafter remembered (and adjusted further) but without needing to go back to the disk for those.

    That said, Lightroom can also be told to write updated metadata back to disk ALSO - as well as within its own Catalog. ACR and LR are intercompatible, provided they are of the same generation, in that they will understand these conversion settings identically.

    To reiterate: this writing of edits back to disk is as well as, rather than instead of, using the LR Catalog. You can set LR to do this automatically, immediately after making each change to an image, otherwise it will only do that on your explicit command. This is an option in the Catalog Settings iirc.

    If you had written your edits to disk, previously, then deleting and reimporting the images would not have lost those edits.

    However, it is much better to simply correct any wrong addressing, of folders or images (better still to avoid that in the first place of course, by simply leaving things be on disk). There is more useful information held about an image within the Catalog, than CAN be written to disk - most particularly, Virtual Copies but also Collection membership plus a few other LR specific features which have no direct equivalent in Adobe Camera Raw. Such as, your sequential editing History.

    99jon
    Legend
    September 19, 2017

    If you have a previous backup, unzip the dated folder and double-click the named catalog (ending .lrcat) to launch in Lightroom.

    Go to the folders panel and right-click on the folder name and choose “update folder location” and then navigate to the folder where the images are stored.

    dj_paige
    dj_paigeCorrect answer
    Legend
    September 19, 2017

    Re-importing is not the solution when LR cannot find the photos. (Deleting the photos in LR eliminates the edits, this also deletes the edits and the edits are not recoverable, unless you had a backup of your LR catalog)

    The solution is to reconnect the photos to the new folder location using these instructions: Adobe Lightroom - Find moved or missing files and folders

    Better yet, rename the folder in Lightroom.

    Better yet, don't use folder names or locations (or file names) to achieve organization, use Lightroom tools such as keywords and other metadata to achieve organization.

    Participating Frequently
    May 19, 2023

    Just a note that not using folders would be untennable for a working photographer with catalogs regularly containing 100K+ images spanning years. Could you? Yes. Would it be efficient - decidedly not. Just not sure "better yet" is helpful framing for someone trying to figure this issue out. Even for someone with a personal catalog, unless you have a photographic memory of your keywords, it seems like a great way to make things hard to find - esp if you ever lost your metadata.

    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 20, 2023

    The correct answer from dj_paige (in 2017!) does not suggest "not using folders".

    Folders are fine and useful- use them. Many use a 'Date' system to name folders.

    But all folder actions to- Rename, Remove, or Move - must be done in Lightroom-Classic if you don't want to 'upset' the Catalog and create 'Missing' photos.

    FOLDER MANAGEMENT

    Folders in Lightroom Classic

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .