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pmr413
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May 22, 2018
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ICC Profile Changes when changing module

  • May 22, 2018
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Is this a confirmed bug in Lightroom, or do I have a tick box selected (or not selected) that is causing this behavior?

Let's say I have two images that I've made edits to during soft-proofing: Image 1 was proofed and edited with a printer/paper profile, an then Image 2 was proofed and edited with the sRGB profile.  If I go back to the Library module, select Image 1, and open it in the Develop module, the profile immediately switches to sRGB!  So - regardless of the profile previously used on that image - if I open an image to which I have applied a color profile, it will switch to whatever profile was used for the last image edited even if that profile differs from the one assigned to the current image being edited.  What's going on here?

I've got a bunch of images to which I've applied paper/printer profiles to, and now they've all become sRGB.  There's no "undo" action that I can apply either in the History panel or with ctl-z; once the new profile is applied, you have to manually re-apply the previous profile.  That actually is a bigger deal than it sounds like since - when the "new" profile is applied, Lightroom automatically changes the copy name of the virtual copy.  Unless you know the previous profile being used, you're out of luck.  Imagine now what I'm trying to fix with a few hundred images with half a dozen paper/printer profile combinations.

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JP Hess
JP Hess
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May 22, 2018

Not sure I'm completely following your soft proofing workflow. Whenever I soft proof I create a new virtual copy and choose the appropriate profile for each virtual copy, and it seems to hold for each one. I do all that in the develop module.

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pmr413Author
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May 22, 2018

Yep, that's what I'm doing, but I'll break it down (I should have done so above):

  1. Open Image 1 in Develop Module
  2. Choose a profile.  For simplicity, let's just call it "My Paper/Printer Combo" with an intent of "relative"
  3. Make some edits.  This will automatically create a virtual copy named "Image 1 • My Paper/Printer Combo, Relative"  You could also have clicked the "Create Proof Copy" button in the soft-proofing pane before making edits.  Either way, the result is the same: a virtual copy of the image will be created.
  4. Go back to the Library Module
  5. Open Image 2 in the Develop Module.
  6. The profile selected will automatically be whatever was chosen for Image 1.  No big deal if we haven't soft-proofed Image 2 before; Lightroom has got to start somewhere.  But let's say we now select sRGB for our profile, and make some edits.  Again, Lightroom will create a virtual copy as soon as we move a slider, and it will give the virtual copy the copy name of "Image 2 • sRGB, Relative"

Now here's where my issue comes in:

  1. Go back to the Library module
  2. Select Image 1 again, and open in the Develop module
  3. The profile immediately switches to "sRGB," and the virtual copy copy name changes to "Image 1 • sRGB, Relative".  I lose all reference to whatever profile it was I was previously using.  If I just happen to know it was "My Paper/Printer Combo," I can select it from the dropdown, and it will be as I had left it.  But if I wasn't quick enough to see what it was previously, I'm doing some guesswork.  You can imagine if I have 4-5 different types of paper and 2 different printers, that that's a lot of permutations to try and figure out!

So, to summarize, when you open an image in soft proofing - any image - Lightroom seems to automatically apply whatever profile was last used for soft-proofing to the current image even if a previous profile was applied, and that profile differs from the last one Lightroom used on a different image. 

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pmr413Author
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May 22, 2018

Here's another observation:

If I do not exit soft-proofing before switching back to the Library module, then I get the behavior above.  If ​do​ ​exit soft-proofing before switching to the Library module, then when I re-open a particular image to which I've previously applied a profile, the image ​will not​ ​immediately switch to the last-used profile, and the copy name will not automatically change.

Here's another separate observation: I was also able to create a situation where the copy name in the Library module is different than the copy name displayed in the Develop Module (using info overlay). 

This behavior is what makes me believe I've discovered a bug. I can't imagine Adobe purposely designing in a "feature" where edits and file metadata are immediately changed without the ability to undo the action.

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