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May 26, 2019
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INSANE, unusable lag when brushing in Lightroom

  • May 26, 2019
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Hi everyone, with a bit of heaving brushing on a picture in Lightroom, on hardware that should be good enough, the lag becomes completely insane. We are talking 10-20 seconds to actually see the Mask overlay, and the entire program completely hangs - which results in having masked a lot of areas I never intended to mask once the software starts to respond again. I've run through hours of articles and all the standard stuff. Even completely removed Photoshop & Lightroom, with catalog and all settings, to start on scratch (with only 10 pictures imported) - same s**t after a few minutes of brushing. When the lag is ongoing I am using 20-30 % CPU & 35 % memory.

My hardware is not "state of the art", but working as an IT Tech the hardware should (in theory) have no problems doing the simple graphics editing I am doing. It won't. Based on the amount of similar threads I assume it all comes down to bad coding/bad product, and I assume the only option is to skip Adobe. No way I am spending $3000 on a new computer cause bad coding requires 10 times the hardware it should. But I will give it a short go here to see if anyone have suggestions or if there's something I have missed. Right now I am trying to edit a picture having resized the Lightroom to only half the screen, still having major issues.

Relevant info:

-Lightroom 8.3

-Windows 10 x64 all patched

-Geforce GTX 980 GFX (with latest nvidia driver)

-4K resolution - 2 x Lenovo ThinkVision X1 27" monitors

-32GB RAM

-2TB SSD that is mostly empty

-Clean install of Lightroom, clean catalog

Troubleshooting attempted:

-With or without GPU checked in performance, more or less the same

-optimized catalog after importing pictures

-all kinds of smart preview settings

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    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    May 26, 2019

    I have always liked the analogous description of 'Brushing' in this article by Victoria Bampton-

    In-  Non-Destructive Editing

    https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-performance-complete-series-optimizing-lightrooms-speed/

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.3, Photoshop 27.5, ACR 18.3, Lightroom 9.3, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.3 .
    GoldingD
    Legend
    May 26, 2019

    By the way, probably should have asked this first.

    In LR click on Help, click on System Information, click on Copy. Paste that in your reply, from the first line down to just before just after plug-ins

    dj_paige
    Legend
    May 26, 2019

    Performing lots of brushing on a photo is known to cause this type of lag. 4K monitors make it worse. I note that you did not mention your exact CPU in your computer specs.

    Some suggestions:

    • Make sure GPU acceleration is off (you said you already tried that)
    • Perform the brushing as the next to last step; and as the last step turn on transforms and lens corrections
    • Use Photoshop to do the brushing

    My hardware is not "state of the art", but working as an IT Tech the hardware should (in theory) have no problems doing the simple graphics editing I am doing."

    Sorry, brushing with a 4K monitor puts a huge amount of stress on your CPU, and obviously you do not have powerful enough hardware to do this and expect reasonable response time.

    GoldingD
    Legend
    May 26, 2019

    Now what follows probably will not solve your adjustment brush lag issue, I think it is probably all those pixels in 4K.

    But in the list of things you went thru to improve performance on a WIN OS rig, perhaps some tweeking is called fir..

    ‘’First up is Power Management, mind you fir a laptop, this one is not fir when you are running on battery. But the issue is to get the OS off a balanced setting to a High Performance setting:

    Should You Use the Balanced, Power Saver, or High Performance Power Plan on Windows?

    Then their us us lots of stuff running that can slow everything down:

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/10-things-to-disable-in-windows-10/

    GoldingD
    Legend
    May 26, 2019

    By the way, noticed NVIDIA, now this particular link is for another NVIDIA GPU, but talks of performance improvement tweak for their products in general.

    How do I customize Optimus profiles and settings? | NVIDIA

    and same from another source

    https://www.winhelp.info/boost-lightroom-performance-on-systems-with-nvidia-graphics-chip.html

    GoldingD
    Legend
    May 26, 2019

    I see 4K display.

    But what resolution are you running at? If at 4K, lightroom will slow down when filling in all those pixels, Reducing to a nit full screen might help a bit, but reducing down to 3K, or less probably will speed things up more.    

    Be happy you are not on a MAC OS and cannot actually reduce resolution (scaling does not cut it)

    Yes, you are not going to be happy having a nice 4K monitor and I Assume 4K capable GPU and not being able to leverage that, and you are not going to be happy that PS probably works just fine, just LR bogs down. but....