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June 10, 2024
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Is it possible to exporting original raw file and DNG, with the same sequence number?

  • June 10, 2024
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When exporting files from Lightroom Classic with File Naming: "Custom Name - Sequence" and File Settings: "Original" - to save the original raw files with XMP sidecar - if there is a DNG file it names it consecutively.

 

Is there a way to have the DNG file have the same sequence # as the raw/XMP files that it matches? I'd like to keep the raw files, as well as the DNG so we have the original without any AI denoising, but right now, it seems like the only way to do so in an export is to ensure the DNG isn't stacked, and they will be named consecutively rather than the same number.

 

I don't want them to be renamed beforehand, as I am making the selection for images to keep, and would like the selected images to have consecutive numbering (and then would then be dealing with this bug with DNG numbering if I named/numbered in advance anyway).

 

Lightroom Classic 13.3.1 / Camera Raw 16.3.1

macOS Sonoma 14.5

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JohanElzenga
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June 11, 2024

The answer is simple: do not use sequence numbers. A sequence is a sequence, so two files will have two numbers, regardless if those two files are an original raw and a derived DNG. What I do is use the 'Original File Number Suffix' in my rename template on import. That is the number that your camera used in the file name, so for example the number 1234 in the file name 'IMG-1234'. I add my initials and date/time in front of it to get a unique file name. Then I use the identical name if I create a denoised DNG, because the different file extension allows this. 

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Rob_Sylvan
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June 10, 2024
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Is there a way to have the DNG file have the same sequence # as the raw/XMP files that it matches? I'd like to keep the raw files, as well as the DNG so we have the original without any AI denoising, but right now, it seems like the only way to do so in an export is to ensure the DNG isn't stacked, and they will be named consecutively rather than the same number.

 

Lightroom Classic 13.3.1 / Camera Raw 16.3.1

macOS Sonoma 14.5


By @Jenny867

 

I apologize as I don't understand your workflow, but just wanted to clarify that the the AI Denoise function is only applied to a copy of the original file (if you click Denoise in the Detail panel a DNG copy is created). So, the original will not have any AI denoising if that allows you to avoid exporting duplicate copies to begin with?

Jenny867Author
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June 10, 2024

That's correct. We keep a copy of the original raw image, as well as the DNG file. This is for easy export of a large TIF image, if needed - and we want the original (not just the DNG file) in case (in retrospect) the edits made weren't ideal. This is for a very large photo library, where we would export a jpg at it's largest size for end users to have access to - but those who deal with much larger print projects may want a large TIF version of the image (but this is much more rare, so not ideal to take up space by exporting all images as large TIF files).