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bst7
Inspiring
January 25, 2022
Question

Is picking individual photos in survey broken?

  • January 25, 2022
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I think I am going crazy, but it seems to me one of the most fundamental ways to work with Survey mode in Lightroom Classic is broken in the recent release.

 

I thought that I could look at a colletion of photos in Survey view, select one, go to the Loupe view, give it a star, reject it, pick it, click on the stars underneath, then go back to Survey and all or any of these operations are done on JUST the one photo. 

 

But now it seems, any and all of these selection/rating actions are being applied to ALL of the photos I've currently selected, even when I am in the Loupe mode, even when I just click under one photo. 

 

The only thing I seem to be able to do to one photo is to hit the X button and that removes it from the selected group as well as from the Survey view.

 

I understand that the rationale here - I am applying these operations on ALL of the selected photos, but what's the use of Survey if I can't actually grade/label/flag individual photos? I am sure (ha!!!) I used to be able to do this, but perhaps I'm mistaken. Is there anyway I can have these actions only apply to individual photos?

 

A quick search on the web about Survey mode lists exactly these kinds of things that you can do in that mode (e.g.: https://digital-photography-school.com/choosing-images-using-survey-view-in-lightroom/) so I'm not the only one who has this expectation.

 

Perhaps this is some kind of "new" setting.feature I can undo?

 

Thanks!

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    Lorenz27274032tvcu
    Participant
    August 16, 2024

    In Library mode your rating will be applied to all photos selected. In Development mode your rating will only be applied to the currently selected photo.

    skyrunr
    skyrunr
    Inspiring
    January 2, 2025

    I'm pretty experienced and way more technical than most.  I'm doing an end of the year archive catalog cleanup/reduction.  I have 500 images that I'm visually checking for duplicates due to an unexpected problem.  I exported PNG's and DNG's (enhanced) to JPG and automatically added them back to the catalog.  While that runs, I changed the original images to 1 star (my marked for deletion as another step.)  I tested this, and the first tasks's export used the original rating of 3 stars.  I did this 4-5 times and the last one seems to have messed up, and both sets of images have one star.  (UGH!) 

    This is all because you can't enhance/denoise without creating DNG's and automatically remove the original!

    Now both versions have a purple label and 1 star instead of the 3 stars set at the time of export.  I've turned off auto-sync, tried Survey, Loupe, Develope views, and read many articles on this.  I can change the currently viewed and selected image, but when I do it LOSES THE SELECTED IMAGES I'm checking, then goes to a random image labeled green, instead of going to the next one.  I'm patient and used to working around glitches and bugs, as long as I can get my task done, but this isn't workable.  (It's a 50,000 image catalog.)

    NOTE:  I'll be careful to do the process as three steps next time, but that isn't ideal, and there is no progress bar (as there usually is) or time estimate for these tasks.  Then the previews build one-by-one.  So it could take 10 minute or an hour...  Unfortunately, nothing comes cloes to Lightroom for managing this many files with as much control.  THESE NEW FEATURES CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS because they are not implemented very well.

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    rockphotog
    Participant
    September 19, 2022

    Anything new on this? The broken survey mode is really critical. To very fast edit a lot of shots (going from 500 to 10 keepers) is using survey mode in combination with flags and filter showing no flagged images only. Now, every image in survey mode gets the same flag. 

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      rockphotog
      Participant
      September 19, 2022

      Sorry - forget it - saw the Auto Sync now!

      (Not possible to delete a post?)

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      richardplondonCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      September 24, 2022

      Just to avoid any possible confusion, I'll add that even if you've checked AutoSync is turned OFF (or on) so far as the Develop module, it may still be turned ON (or off) so far as the Library module. Those two controls are independent.

       

      I haven't yet found any key shortcut for AutoSync so I think the only way to check (if the right panel happens to be collapsed), may be to open that up and review the state of the toggle switch.

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      JOTZdesigns
      Participant
      September 14, 2022

      Ok, so taking of autosync solves this, but it DID NOT happen this way before! I ALWAYS have sync on, it's how I work, and only recently did it start applying things like picking/flagging/staring to ALL images in N mode. I'm not in Develope, so why does that sync even apply?!? SO frustrating! Now when I start making edits, I forget I have to turn sync back ON, so now I have to go back and redo things I thought were syncing! ARG!

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        JOTZdesigns
        Participant
        September 14, 2022

        Ok I was wrong... I swear it worked when I tried it, but after I posted and went back to editing, it went back to applying to ALL with sync off.  <sigh> Now back to it taking longer to edit. Thanks, Adobe. 

          dj_paige
          dj_paige
          Legend
          January 25, 2022

          But now it seems, any and all of these selection/rating actions are being applied to ALL of the photos I've currently selected, even when I am in the Loupe mode, even when I just click under one photo.


          I am not experiencing this in Windows 11, Lightroom Classic 11.1. It seems as if the explanation about auto-sync is correct. Perhaps from now on when you discuss issues, you could provide the basic information of Operating system version NUMBER and Lightroom Classic version NUMBER.

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          bst7Author
          Inspiring
          January 25, 2022

          I don't think Auto Sync was turned on by shifting between modes, I can't reproduce it changing its state either. Mac 12.1, LR Classic 11.1 (*sorry!)

           

          I've noticed this problem (and ignored it until I had a whole bunch of photos to look through) since updating to both a new machine and a new LR. Perhaps this is some kind of default setting on a new install? That's the only thing I can think of.

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          bst7Author
          Inspiring
          January 25, 2022

          I think this is a bug.

          https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/has-lightroom-survey-view-changed/td-p/11848061

           

          I **NEVER** use Sync, and indeed "Auto Sync" was turned on. I typically HIDE this RH panel anyway in Survey mode to have the screen space, so how did this even get turned on to begin with? A new setting in the new release of LR_Classic?

           

          In any case, this is "solved",

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            richardplondonCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            January 25, 2022

            I have no idea how AutoSync got turned on for you. It can certainly be frustrating to discover this has been active unknowingly.

             

            Just confirming that in my (Windows 11.1) software AutoSync is not getting automatically turned on / off when changing between Grid / Loupe / Survey views. No change in that, from previously.

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