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March 3, 2018
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Last 4 sliders of Adjustment Brush not Working.

  • March 3, 2018
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Last four sliders (sharpness, noise, moire, defringe) in my adjustment brush are not working. As I move these sliders it's making no difference to the image. All the other sliders (e.g. saturation) work properly. Flow and density is set to 100. The pin and mask overlay is selected. What's wrong?

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    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I set Clarity to minus 100 and it worked. Clarity and sharpness however are different tools with different effects.

    Community Expert
    March 4, 2018

    Rastis77  wrote

    I set Clarity to minus 100 and it worked. Clarity and sharpness however are different tools with different effects.

    Positive values of Sharpness are indeed very different in nature, to positive values of Clarity.

    But negative values of the two are much more comparable IMO; or better, can be used in combination toward similar ends.

    AFAICT Clarity presents two visually quite different sorts of adjustment, as two ranges on the same slider.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I have the current version of Lightroom. I was just recently bluring a few images (maybe two weeks ago) and everything was all right. Even now I am able to blur horizontal images but not vertical. That's strange.

    Just Shoot Me
    Legend
    March 3, 2018

    Sorry but I have to ask.

    Have you actually used the Brush to Brush parts of the image you are working on?

    None of the adjustment sliders do anything until you brush part or parts of the image.

    You can brush first then move the sliders or move the sliders to what you think you want and then brush.

    I had to zoom in to 2:1, basically 200%, and move the sliders back and forth from one extreme to the other to see the effects.

    Try an image with a close up of a face. Zoom into an eye and use the brush tool and adjust the Sharpening slider to +100 then brush over the eye. Then move the other sliders right and left to see if you see there effects.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    Yes, I have used the brush. I can see Mask Overlay in red colour.

    I have tried to zoom and then adjust sliders as you suggested but wit no effect.

    Community Expert
    March 3, 2018

    You should be able to see effect with these settings. Is your Lightroom fully updated (current version is 7.2)? I think there were some bugs with sharpening preview rendering not updating that were fixed along the way.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    Sharpening in my Detail panel is set like at this screenshot.

    Community Expert
    March 3, 2018

    How visible the effect will be, does depend on how full of contrasty edges / texture / noise that part of the picture is.

    RP

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I'm quite new to Lightroom. What should I change in my settings to work it properly?

    Community Expert
    March 3, 2018

    What are your settings in the detail section of general develop? The local sliders depend on what is set there. richard explains it above.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I have zoomed to a higher magnification and moved the sharpness slider to minus 100 so the changes should be visible but I can't see any difference.

    Interesting thing is that I could blur another images (horizontal) but it's not possible to blur vertical pictures. I have found out it just now.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I have found one thread on Adobe Forum with similar problem. It says “This question has been Answered.” And it says: “move the extender beside the adjustment brush tool to Basic”. Where can I find this extender? I can not see anything.

    The link to this Adobe Forum thread: https://forums.adobe.com/message/6256263#6256263

    JP Hess
    Inspiring
    March 3, 2018

    I don't know what that message means either. You have to consider that that message is three years old. I don't remember a basic extender. Some of the adjustments in the adjustment brush are very subtle. To see the effects it's sometimes necessary to have your image zoomed to a higher magnification.

    Rastis77Author
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2018

    I’m not quite sure what do you both mean. What should I do now?

    Just Shoot Me
    Legend
    March 3, 2018

    They are working on my system but depending on the image you are working on and the zoom level you are zoomed into the adjustments are very subtle.

    Community Expert
    March 3, 2018

    If you have applied a lot of global sharpening (in the Detail panel) then the Sharpness slider in the local adjustments can make a large visible difference as you slide it from -100 to +100. That's because local adjustments adjust what picture data is input to the global sharpening, which then exaggerates that.

    If you have little or no global sharpening set, there is correspondingly less visible result from the local tool since edge contrast is not being "multiplied up" by that.

    Noise: this is quite similar in that if you have applied a lot of noise reduction, there is a lot of visible difference made, from applying more or less NR with the local tool. If you have applied no global NR or only a little, then the local slider's visual action is left quite subtle.

    Moire is a targeted tool which probably won't make much visible difference to an image, except specifically where it has got false colour artefacts (or, I suppose, genuine colour detail which happens to have that same appearance so far as LR can detect).

    Defringe: similar situation as with Moire, AFAICT.