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Dan Perry
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June 1, 2023
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Noise in Some Photos

  • June 1, 2023
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I am trying to figure out the source of noise in some of my images.

The attached images where shot a heartbeat apart on a Sony a1 on manual with a remote trigger. The orginal files are RAW. All perameters are exactly the same. Their histograms look exactly the same. I expected noise at ISO 8000. ( Sony 90mm f5.0 1/3200 sec. ) No Flash. They were uploaded to Lightroom Classic 12.3 at the same time. The development choices were cut and paste. I can not remember which one I did first, or which of a number of images was the source.  My question is, why the huge difference in noise? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Correct answer dj_paige

In one photo, the color noise slider is set to 25. In the other photo, the color noise slider is set to 0.

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Dan Perry
Dan PerryAuthor
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June 2, 2023

I think I have Dropbox sorted out. This is a link to the RAW files.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/evro79ye9v47y4d/AADNTigCV9MJgnf-14fPaQq8a?dl=0

dj_paige
dj_paigeCorrect answer
Legend
June 2, 2023

In one photo, the color noise slider is set to 25. In the other photo, the color noise slider is set to 0.

Keith Reeder
Participating Frequently
June 2, 2023

Where can you see this, DJ?

dj_paige
Legend
June 2, 2023

Is the Detail panel turned off in one of the photos (the one with the more noise)?

 

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 2, 2023

It is not possible to conclude with anything here until we see a 100% view of both.

 

100% is a significant number. It means one image pixel is represented by exactly one physical screen pixel. It's the only way to see the pixel structure accurately.

 

The two shots are taken with the same aperture, so if there's any real difference, it would have to be shutter speed bracketing.

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 2, 2023

I have to ask: why would you choose to learn photography basics on an a1? The Sony alphas are incredibly complex cameras that can be customized to do anything by pushing any button. There's no limit to what can happen if you push the right - or wrong! - button.

Dan Perry
Dan PerryAuthor
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June 2, 2023

I studied photography long before digital. I didn't like the work flow or darkrooms, so I didn't stick with it. Then I spent years in the movie industry looking over the shoulders of some of the great DOPs of the world. Soon their choices became extremely perdictable.

I like all things digital. When I retired I got back into photo I picked up a Sony a7iii. I love photographing wildlife, night skys etc. in remote wilderness locations and I felt an A1 would serve me better.

Generally I think I know which buttons to press, but I'm still learning.

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 1, 2023

Can you upload the raws to something like Dropbox or similar so we can examine them each?

FWIW, ISO has nothing to do with noise. The relative amount of noise changes with exposure. Underexposure leads to more noise; not ISO. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Dan Perry
Dan PerryAuthor
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June 2, 2023

I will look into how to use Dropbox. And thank you for the note on ISO. I am fairly new to photography. Still learning. Could you refer me to a source where I could look futher into ISO?

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
June 2, 2023
dj_paige
Legend
June 1, 2023

Is one shown from the Library Module and the otehr shown from the Develop Module?

 

Was one badly underexposed and you had to use the Exposure (or other slider) to correct the underexposure?

 

Are you 100% sure that the Noise sliders are the same in both photos?

Keith Reeder
Participating Frequently
June 1, 2023

The two shots are only 1 second apart, according to the Exif (the noisier one being first) - not much chance for settings changes etc.

Dan Perry
Dan PerryAuthor
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June 2, 2023

What magic allows you to see the Exif on here?