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(On PC) How to create.xmp preset that will work for BOTH raw vs. jpg files?

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April 14, 2018
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For those who use the latest Lightroom Classic CC 7.3 on PC - when a new lightroom preset is saved the file extension is .xmp seems to be stored in <...\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\Settings\User Presets>, rather than <...\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Develop Presets\User Presets> - which I can live with.

However, it appears that if the edits were done on a .DNG file then the preset is available for you to select if you are trying to use it on another .DNG file. The preset disappears as soon as you select a .JPG file. The only way I found around this is to manually copy the settings across and save it as a new preset against the JPG file.

Is there a way to create a new lightroom preset in .xmp format, by default, that will work with any photo file format?

All .lrtemplate files (I created in Lightroom on my Mac) I imported (into my Lightroom on PC) automatically converted to .xmp files in <...\CameraRaw\Settings\User Presets> and work just fine. on raw or otherwise. Why the saved new presets can't do the same by default?

If I'm mistaken, feel free to shed some light on this.

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Correct answer Bob Somrak

When you create the preset uncheck "Treatment and Profile". Then they should work everywhere. Some profiles will not work on JPG files. That being said there seems to be a glitch on certain files. See my post above.

scottcarroll

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When working with a JPEG inside Camera Raw: Right-click a visible profile in the presets dialog within Camera Raw and choose "Show Partially compatable Presets". This will allow your presets/XMP files designed for RAW images to work (or to be accessible) when working with a JPEG inside Camera Raw. The presets will be gayed out but will work.

Bob SomrakCorrect answer

Legend

When you create the preset uncheck "Treatment and Profile". Then they should work everywhere. Some profiles will not work on JPG files. That being said there seems to be a glitch on certain files. See my post above.

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB

johnrellis

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When you create the preset uncheck "Treatment and Profile". Then they should work everywhere. Some profiles will not work on JPG files.

That seems plausible, though I'm not able to replicate that behavior. If I create a preset from a raw photo with the camera-matching profile Camera Vivid, with Treatment and Profile included, I can still apply that preset to JPEGs, even though the Camera Vivid profile is for raws only.

It would be good to get the details requested from Jesse, so we can identify under what conditions this is happening and file an actionable bug report with Adobe.

Bob Somrak

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John,

There is definitely some odd behavior with presets and JPG files. I created a repeatable scenario is the following thread where the preset works all the time for the raw and only some of the time for JPG. The preset was created from a JPG. See here.Odd preset behavior JPG files

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB

Ian Lyons

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I'm not seeing the issue you describe on the Mac platform. The new presets should work as they did previously. Are you sure that you're looking in the correct preset folder in presets folder tree in Develop module?

jesse.machinaAuthor

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Hey man, thanks for your reply but that is literally the first thing I said - "For those who use the latest Lightroom Classic CC 7.3 on PC". I know it works fine on Mac, what's described above is strictly in Lightroom installed on a Windows PC.

Also, like I said - on PC, when you save presets it does NOT save under the Development module. Instead it saves under <..CameraRaw\Settings\UserPresets> instead.

There has been a recent (April 2018) updates on this which explains this change - https://www.proloststore.com/faq/presetsafterapril2018

It's not really an issue per se, the preset is still created - except for example, if the preset was created on a DNG file, then that preset seems to only work on other DNG files. When I choose a JPG file, that very same preset disappears in Development module. So the preset is not universally applicable to raw as well as jpg files.

Hope this clears things up. Thanks.

johnrellis

Legend

if the preset was created on a DNG file, then that preset seems to only work on other DNG files. When I choose a JPG file, that very same preset disappears in Development module. So the preset is not universally applicable to raw as well as jpg files.

Internally, presets now have the capability of applying only to raw, only to non-raw, or both. But I don't understand how you can create a raw-only preset within LR. Whenever I create a preset (on Windows or Mac, starting with a DNG raw, a raw, or a JPEG), the preset applies to both raw and non-raw.

Can you please create a new preset and post a screenshot of the New Develop Preset window right before you click Create. Then in the Presets panel, right-click that new preset and do Show In Finder / Explorer. Open the selected .xmp file in TextEdit (Mac) or Notepad (Windows), select all the text, and post that here too.

That should clarify what's going on.

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