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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
October 23, 2024

 

Bonsoir ,

je confirme que tout le système est ralenti de manière énorme , pas seulement l'AI , le reste aussi ..

j'espère moi aussi un correctif rapide car c'est un vrai problème !

Cordialement

Olivier

 

Participant
October 23, 2024

Hello I am writing to get help on a way to automate this type of image cleaning. It would be amazing that this could come as an auto detection of dust and scratches using the Visualize Spots funtion directly in Lightroom.  The first picture shows the original film scanned. It contains some little spots and tiny hairs.

 

 

 

The next picture shows the Remove tool enabled (Q) and the visualize spots also enabled.
After some time I managed to get rid of all the spots, but is there any way that Adobe can automate this?

Even if we can decide afterwards which white areas of the image we want to retain? This could help not just me, but many others too. 

 

 

 

 

johnrellis
Legend
October 24, 2024

Please repost this feature request in the forum's Ideas section, where Adobe and other users are more likely to see it:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/ct-p/ct-lightroom-classic?page=1&sort=latest_replies&filter=all&tabid=ideas

Participant
October 23, 2024

Saludos.

Tengo más de dos meses con la membresía y esta función IA regenerativo no me ha funcionado. He reistalado el programa y sigo con el mismo problema. 

johnrellis
Legend
October 24, 2024

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@Dylan Montero: "I have been a member for over two months and this regenerative AI feature has not worked for me."

 

 

LR's English translation of that error:

 

"$$$/Clio/StatusCode/HTTP/Forbidden=We've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time. Please try again later."

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

Participant
October 23, 2024

The removal of undesirable objects has become much worse, now the entire selected removal space is blurred/stained. Attached screenshot.

 

Cordially

Ines

johnrellis
Legend
October 23, 2024

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@Golden Lens Photography: "The removal of undesirable objects has become much worse, now the entire selected removal space is blurred/stained."

 

 

This issue isn't new to LR 14 -- lots of similar examples from LR 13.  There are two possible causes of this:

 

1. You've applied Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask. Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask. In general, Adobe's designed workflow is to apply Remove first, then masking.

 

2. Sometimes Generative Remove doesn't do a good job of blending the replacement against uniform backgrounds like skies.  You can often work around this by making the selection even more ragged or much larger (e.g. to include a much larger part of the sky).

 

If the issue with this photo is this second reason, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, to provide actionable feedback for Adobe.

 

Participant
October 23, 2024

Hi, is there a way to set opacity before applying AI Removal to the image? I can't see that option anymore after the update and it allows me to adjust the opacity only after I remove an object with the tool which is very inconvenient. Would appreicate any help on that. 

johnrellis
Legend
October 24, 2024

@Lukasz22018323g86j: "is there a way to set opacity before applying AI Removal to the image? I can't see that option anymore after the update and it allows me to adjust the opacity only after I remove an object with the tool which is very inconvenient."

 

Agreed. In LR 14, Adobe "simplified" the Remove user interface by hiding the Opacity slider until after you've clicked Remove. Because it uses the hidden previous setting of the slider, there are a number of posts here from people mistakenly thinking that Remove isn't working, merely because the Opacity slider is set less than 100 and LR did its best to hide that from them.

Known Participant
October 23, 2024

I get extreme amounts of posterisation when using generative removal or hdr panoramas

johnrellis
Legend
October 24, 2024

@TheBommel: "I get extreme amounts of posterisation when using generative removal or hdr panoramas"

 

Since this is occurring with HDR panoramas also, it's not something specific to Remove. As a first troubleshooting step, update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

 

If that doesn't help, start a new thread and include full resolution-screenshots (not phone pics) of what you're seeing and copy/paste the output from the menu command Help > System Info. (Don't reply in this thread.)

heybigmac
Participant
October 23, 2024

hahahaha, its a joke and doesn't work.  Easier to print the image out and use tipex / whiteout. 

Participant
October 22, 2024

So, Lightroom Classic 14.0.1 - For me the Generative Remove works nicely, except that it constantly needs me to "update remove settings." If I go to another photo and come back, Update Remove Settings. When I export the photo as a jpg, the thing I removed is there! Even if I update and then directly export one file at a time, without clicking off it after updating, it may or may not export correctly. 

johnrellis
Legend
October 23, 2024

@christinag89624499: "Lightroom Classic 14.0.1 - For me the Generative Remove works nicely, except that it constantly needs me to "update remove settings."

 

LR 14.0 had a serious bug with this, and Adobe very quickly released 14.0.1 to fix it. But getting the fix to work appears to be quite fussy for many people (and Adobe has provided ambiguous direction on that score). See the second reply from Adobe employee Rikk Flohr at the top of the bug report thread:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-subject-mask-from-previous-versions-are-requesting-an-update/idi-p/14915210

 

If that doesn't help, then please post in that thread with details of what's going wrong. You're much more likely to resolve the issue in that thread than in this one.

Participant
October 22, 2024

Every now and then the elements I delete reappear and I get a message in that section: "some deletion settings need to be updated" and I have to use generative deletion again. In a moment (e.g. when I generate some photos) it happens again and again... (same with AI powered masks) And my generative points are taken away from me.

I ask for an immediate fix for this problem and a refund of the generative points.

Best regards

ksmch
Participating Frequently
October 22, 2024

I just need to show it somebody) I was expected to generate lips without tongue. Likely I got that result  because of zone I masked was looks like an eye