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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Aug 13, 2024 2:32 PM UTC
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Known Participant
Oct 16, 2024 5:27 PM UTC

Remove tool more worse than ever. Instead of removing it puts new heads in instead. So I still have to go to PS!

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johnrellis
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Oct 17, 2024 2:35 AM UTC

@Drugstore: "Instead of removing it puts new heads in instead."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 5:21 PM UTC

Hi, I have a problem with the new update, some very strange things have happened to me. I had some files that I had already edited with the previous version, using the remove tool. Well, with the new version it asks me to update each file where I used that tool. I do it, but after a few clicks on other photos, they return to their initial state. That is, I can't get the changes made with the previous version to be fixed with the new version.

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 7:20 PM UTC

I had this issue, too.

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Participating Frequently
Oct 16, 2024 4:39 PM UTC

It does a nice job of blowing up and crashing Lightroom, 

 

Is this the expected results?

 

Is this a beta release? Should I be getting a refund?

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johnrellis
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Oct 17, 2024 1:24 AM UTC

@iBcampion: "crashing Lightroom"

 

First, update your graphics driver by going directly to the manufacturer's web site:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

 

If LR is still crashing, make sure you've submitted a crash report to Adobe and entered the email address associated with your Adobe Id. Then start a new thread with the details of what you were doing when LR crashed, and include a copy of the entire output from the menu command Help > System Info.

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Participating Frequently
Oct 16, 2024 4:27 PM UTC

I just got the latest update.  14.0 Release,  Camera Raw 17.0.  Generative Remove does not work.  I uninstalled LrC and installed from scratch again.  Nothing.  I tried the same in both Lr and Ps ( CameraRaw there ) and that worked just fine.

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 11:51 AM UTC

Trying to remove objects in a HDR file, but removal tool is only replacing objects with more problems.

Right now this is terrrible compared to last version. Iv tried all options but same outcome.

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 11:38 AM UTC

The remove tool is much worst in the new version. I don't want to generate anything, just remove small details from my images. The results are getting worse on every new version. I have to edit all my images in Photoshop and use the patch tool.

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 11:36 AM UTC

I'm encountering a recurring problem when using Generative Erase in an area that is predominately in an area of sky.  About 50% of the time, I get results that are darker than the surrounding sky.  And if this happens, all the variations are the same way.  Has anyone encountered this?  As a note, there are masks applied - one of which was a smart mask - though I am not sure if there is correlation or causation between the two.  This isn't a matter of needing to refesh the mask, though sometimes that is needed when you remove something throguh generative erase that was modified by a smart mask.     ALC 14.0 - PC - Windows 10. 

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johnrellis
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Oct 17, 2024 1:11 AM UTC

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@Deremer Studios: "About 50% of the time, I get results that are darker than the surrounding sky.  ... As a note, there are masks applied - one of which was a smart mask"

 

 

By Adobe's design, you should apply Removes before AI masks. If you apply Removes after the masks (a more natural workflow for most people), you often end up with these "holes".  In that case, you can usually fix the issue by doing Settings > Update AI Settings. 

 

But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. In less common cases, Remove sometimes doesn't do a good job of matching sky color.

 

 

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Participant
Oct 16, 2024 2:28 AM UTC

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ERASE TOOL IN LIGTHROOM, NOW IT IS HORRIBLE, IN ADDITION THE ADJUSTMENT IS DELETED, YOU HAVE TO BE UPDATING THE DELETIONS YOU MAKE, IT ALSO HAPPENS IN THE ADJUSTMENT LAYERS, ANY MODIFICATION YOU MAKE IN LAYERS AS WELL AS THE DELETION ARE LOST, YOU HAVE TO CLICKING ON THE OPTION THAT SAYS UPDATE AND EVEN SO IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE SAVED, I HAVE BEEN HOURS ON A JOB WHEN NORMALLY IT TOOK ME MINUTES, NOW I HAVE TO SAVE INDIVIDUAL IMAGE BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE SETTINGS ARE LOST AND I HAVE TO START OVER.

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sarkara1
Known Participant
Oct 15, 2024 8:59 PM UTC

Hey Adobe, do we need to remind you that we are paying for the software, and you've made no customer support available other than this useless forum? Fix it now!

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Participant
Oct 15, 2024 8:05 PM UTC

my lightroom after using the remove option, it's like it forgot that it did it and I have to update each photo after a few minutes, it's a joke. I just finished editing photos for a client and it turned out that after saving the files after editing, the files did not include any remove object, a joke

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callmedoug
Participating Frequently
Oct 15, 2024 8:38 PM UTC

go back to any file you used AI on, i bet they are all screwed as well. 

 

 

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