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July 2, 2014
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P: Improved Fuji X-Trans Support?

  • July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

Correct answer CMass
Hi Everyone,

We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

Cheers,
Carissa

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just eirik
Known Participant
February 26, 2021

Yeah I agree, LR should just recognize and prosess x-trans files correctly from the start without using enhance detail.

The reason I like enhance detail more than the transformer is that (from my limited "testing") it brings back color definition in small details. The transformer did not do that.

Inspiring
February 26, 2021

I agree. I am no pixel peeper but the worms are quite clear and make the overall picture look "mushy". I have stayed with lightroom though because of the many many hours learning it and try to put up with these artefacts. I do use irident x transformer but it's workaround and adds time when having to decide whether to use it etc. Enhance detail doesn't seem to make much difference to me and is also a pain as described. Enhance detail feels like an acceptance of the problem but an attempt to sort it out after the problem has occured. So surely the solution would be to have lightroom recognise its a fuji file (or you tell it) on import and process it correctly then.  In conclusion, lightroom is a fantastic program but occasionally i do think about leaving lightroom. 

Participating Frequently
February 25, 2021

I find X Transformer is good, and runs better on my machine than "enhance details".

Of course these sort of workarounds should not be needed.

just eirik
Known Participant
February 25, 2021

Cool, thanks for the suggestion. 

Adobe REALLY should get it together though. This is ridicules. The thread says "in progress" and Adobe support on Twitter sends people here when they ask.

I get the feeling that Adobe is straight up lying. I dont believe them when they say they are working on it. How could I at this point=

robertoo71705141
Participating Frequently
February 25, 2021

My workflow for stitching is:

1.- C1 for developing to ROMM TIFF 16-Bits

2.- Hugin for stitching.

3.-Back to C1 and/or Phoshop/Affinity for final retouch.

More steps but better results for detail developing from X-Trans sensors. 

just eirik
Known Participant
February 25, 2021

Its very hard for me to switch away from LR because the way it lets me stitch raw files and edit them is so good. I do a lot of stitching.

I have tried the Iridient X-Transformer, and I did not like it. I did not really understand all the options and leaving them at the defaults did not give me very good results. 

I like the Enhance Detail feature much more. But the files you get from that are very big and it takes extra time. It takes more time if you then delete those files later.

robertoo71705141
Participating Frequently
February 25, 2021

I gave up this topic about 2 years ago and change to C1. But you could try the plugin of X-transformer for Ligthroom if you don't want to change the Adobe plataform.

just eirik
Known Participant
February 25, 2021

@Adobe @3236367 @11173908?
Can anyone confirm if this ACTUALLY is being worked on? This thread is basically dead, but when you contact Adobe support on twitter about the X-Trans issue they send people to this thread. They do say that they are working on it, but its very hard to believe.

Its hard to believe because its been YEARS and its still not fixed. 

Its hard to believe because Adobe has so much money and resources, so it SHOULD have been fixed years ago. 

It's hard to believe because this thread is dead and no one from Adobe is responding.

But still, I will share some comparisons from a Fujifilm camera that has a normal sensor to one that has an X-Trans sensor. Just to show how photos should look. I'll include the RAW files too. Who knows, maybe they could be useful in some way.

The raw files:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TaouEUmnoIOwshGcO9ZXgb8aTrHeP_7y/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zye5uuCE3vfLnIgOumCTyoN-DBgz8l_D/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ux5G_TyRVPJ565F_oqX6eU6LwOTjXMbn/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19cL3h7T_Vk5a26OgoQCuk4oIroemEPvi/view?usp=sharing

Known Participant
February 23, 2021

A dedicated camera is just a smartphone without computational processing or multiple lenses or connectivity

I'm sorry but that is the most stupid thing I have ever read.

just eirik
Known Participant
February 23, 2021

Maybe there is a Samsung subreddit where you can ask politely if anyone are willing to share any raw files with you. 
Just an idea.