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pinkypunk35
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July 2, 2014
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  • July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

    Correct answer CMass
    Hi Everyone,

    We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

    Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

    To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

    Cheers,
    Carissa

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    just eirik
    just eirik
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    February 22, 2021

    Is a real solution still being worked on? Enhance Detail is, as far as I am concerned, is not a real solution because it takes extra clicks and time for every photo. And the new files that are created take up extra space. Then I have to spend extra time deleting those files later. 

    So, I just wanna know if a real solution is being worked on?

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    COBill
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    August 29, 2020
    Different, yes. Better, in the eye of the beholder.
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    Samoreen
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2020
    > Adobe really needs to address the native rendering of Fuji files with Camera Raw.

    Agreed. However, Adobe seem to consider that the problem is fixed on their side. Do not expect any solution from Adobe in the near future. So, Fuji X-Trans users have to find a solution. There are not much :

    - DxO Photolab still doesn't support X-Trans RAW files
    - Capture One gives good results but the UI is far from being user friendly and the pricing is excessive.
    - Silkypix Developer Studio Pro is also able to handle these files correctly but the UI is archaic.
    - ... (not aware of any other good RAW processors that are able to handle these files correctly or that are stable enough to be used safely).
    --Patrick
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    mrdoodlebugg
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    August 29, 2020
    Samoreen I’ve used it. But why? Think of how awful this would be if all users of Lightroom (Sony, Canon, Nikon etc) had to first make a duplicate copy of their raw files in another program in order to properly edit them. And then manage 2-3 different files of the same image (RAF, DNG, JPEG)

    Adobe really needs to address the native rendering of Fuji files with Camera Raw.

    As a stop gap they could provide an option to use the Enhance Details engine to render/preview/export without generating new DNG files.
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    Samoreen
    Inspiring
    August 29, 2020
    You could use Iridient X-Transformer. It gives better results and is faster than Enhance Details. It is also well integrated with Lightroom.
    --Patrick
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    mrdoodlebugg
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    August 29, 2020


    I'm curious if this is being investigated and worked on? There is a well known issue that Lightroom Classic renders Fujifilm X-trans sensor raw files poorly and shows worming and other strange artifacts compared to other raw processors.

    This is actually becoming a major issue, and Fujifilm users are not an insignificant portion of users who are tempted by other products that do render their files properly.

    Enhance Details does seem to render the files better, but then we are left with a large DNG file to manage, not to mention the processing time.
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    Cicuryn10499771
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    July 9, 2019
    Honestly, I'm also not fan of all that worms in .RAF images, BUT... notice that Adobe RAF processing completely removes color noise. Absolutely, no action needed, never. And looking at your screenshots, I see massive loss of sharpness in Capture One. You can set strong noise reduction in Lightroom and then you're probably gonna get similar output.
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    Lewis Craik
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    July 8, 2019
    Whilst the careful use of settings can mitigate how badly Lightroom renders X trans files, you simply do not get this problem with Capture 1 etc.
    john beardsworth
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    john beardsworthCommunity Expert
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    July 8, 2019
    Because one is inherently saying that they don't know what they are doing, and people don't like that 😉
    I use settings that are specific to the characteristics of the image. Maybe what will help you is to break away from the mentality of the "Base preset is Classic Chrome as recommended by someone" and "I figured out from another group". Sure, choose Classic Chrome if you like its look, but try other looks too. For what it is worth, I prefer the Previa film simulation as it gives a neutral but attractive look from where I can add saturation or not, as I see fit. As for the Detail panel settings, I don't feel high Detail settings do much for Fuji, but higher Masking is often beneficial as it allows one to use more aggressive sharpening and target it only on those areas that need it. Make sure you hold down the Alt/Opt key when you drag these sliders. Hope that helps.
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    infinitypro
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    July 8, 2019
    Why would they do that?! I figured out from another group I had a couple of sliders on i.e. Color 25, Detail 50, Smoothness 50 but amended these to: Sharpening 15, Radius 1.0, Detail 10, Masking 10, and have Noise Reduction sliders to 0. Base preset is Classic Chrome as recommended by someone. But still rubbish! What do you use? 
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