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pinkypunk35
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July 2, 2014
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  • July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

    Correct answer CMass
    Hi Everyone,

    We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

    Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

    To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

    Cheers,
    Carissa

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    pinkypunk35Author
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    December 12, 2018
    4 years now, still top of the list, still a problem, and still no word or reply from Adobe reps....
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    pinkypunk35Author
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    December 12, 2018
    That's a really stupid argument from DP Home. Basically either like it or lump it?

    User feedback is how society progresses, it's also how software evolves otherwise it would be the same product it was back in 2007. In fact it's what this entire forum is for. IF you don't understand that what are you doing here?

    You buy the tool to do the job, and Lightroom promises to do the job but fails spectacularly. As a customer who's invested in a piece of software you have all the right to complain or provide feedback. This is how things evolve.

    Any new users coming into Lightroom in 2018 for Fuji camera's are moving away soon after; but older users who have huge catalogues of edits are reluctantly staying and hoping for improvement, begging for improvement; they like many aspects, they may shoot other cameras, and they like the integration with Photoshop, InDesign et al.

    The frustrating thing for me, and may other Fuji users is that so many other, less well developed, less funded, smaller businesses and even a couple of individual developers are doing Fuji RAW conversion SO MUCH BETTER than Adobe!

    This is a company with a team of over 17,000 employees and profits of $1.8 BILLION DOLLARS.
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    dirtyw65653863
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    December 12, 2018
    You're missing the point. We don't wish to move away from Lightroom because we like the interface more than any other program. It makes the most sense and is intuitive. We will if we have to but we'd prefer not to. We're simply reminding Adobe that none of their customers are bound to them by anything. Secondly, this just shouldn't be a problem in the first place. Adobe has boat loads of money and more than enough people to fix the problem rather quickly. If one man can figure it out, surely Adobe can with an entire team.
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    Cicuryn10499771
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    December 12, 2018
    "reminds me some people whining when Trump was elected that they can just move to Canada... the last time I checked they still whining from here 🙂 " 

    This is probably what Adobe hopes for with Lightroom too 😄
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    deejjjaaaa
    Inspiring
    December 12, 2018
    > Way too much clicking around from menu to menu to get to different tools. 

    you know that you can customize that and group tools in tabs as you wish ? or make them floating too ?

    > As much as I hate Adobe right now

    "... Adobe, do you realize with monthly subscriptions, people can just cancel and move to another developer?..." 

    that is what I thought... blah-blah-blah
    deejjjaaaa
    deejjjaaaa
    Inspiring
    December 12, 2018
    >  people can just cancel and move to another developer?

    reminds me some people whining when Trump was elected that they can just move to Canada... the last time I checked they still whining from here 🙂 ... how about you put your money where your mouth is  ?
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    Samoreen
    Inspiring
    December 11, 2018
    Does the worming/oil painting effects go away when you first process in X-transformer?
    Yes. And you get much more details than in LR.
    and when I bring it back into Lr, are the film simulations intact
    Yes, they are still available. Actually, I'm doing nothing in LR before the file has been converted to a DNG by X-Transformer. Then, the DNG can be handled like the original file. You can download a free demo. Just try...
    --Patrick
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    dirtyw65653863
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    December 11, 2018
    Good to know. I've been trying out the free version of Capture 1 (version 11) and I agree withy you. The interface is cumbersome. Way too much clicking around from menu to menu to get to different tools. As much as I hate Adobe right now, Lr still wipes the floor on user interface. Everything is in the right place and easy to get to. Does the worming/oil painting effects go away when you first process in X-transformer? and when I bring it back into Lr, are the film simulations intact? Those are the two things I want most
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    dirtyw65653863
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    December 11, 2018
    1:1 zoom on a mossy log taken on my X-T3 + Fujinon 18-55 kit lens. Capture 1 on the left, latest version of Lightroom as of 12/11/18 on the right. Same file, no edits done to them at all. This shot is straight OOC. I did not sign up for oil painting classes then I switched to Fuji. This is atrocious and the fact that Adobe has done next to nothing to fix the problem speaks volumes to their feelings towards their customers opinions. Adobe, do you realize with monthly subscriptions, people can just cancel and move to another developer? Why haven't you guys figured this out yet?
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    Samoreen
    Inspiring
    December 9, 2018
    I'm very seriously considering ditching Lr for Capture 1 to gain the image quality I can't get from Adobe
    I would say, refrain from doing this. I purchased a C1 license to handle my X-Trans file. C1 also has a lot of problems and an awkward user interface that should be re-designed. Moreover, updates are becoming extremely expensive.

    My current best solution is to use Iridient X-Transformer which gives excellent results and allows me to work from within LR.
    --Patrick
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