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P: Sync/copying a Local Adjust/Spot/Crop results in wrong size and position

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February 16, 2018
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[See here for a bug recipe for LR 10.2 that occurs with any in-camera rotated raw:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-synchronization-of-the-radial-filter-from-hdr-dng-to-raw-wrong-position-and-size/5f5f46214b561a3d42751770?commentId=607dd655c9914b71482fc956 -JRE]

1. Combine a sequence of 5 shots obtaining a DNG HDR with automatic alignment and low movement removal
2. Apply a radial filter to the DNG
3. Synchronize the DNG settings to apply them to the 5 original RAW shots
4. The radial filter on the RAW is of a different size and position than the original DNG from which it was synchronized

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SammCox

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A more better way of promoting the virtual copy to be the master is to use the Library module's Photo menu > Set Copy as Master function. To use, select the virtual copy to be exchanged with the master and click Set Copy as Master. The virtual copy's settings are now affixed to the master image while the original master image's settings belong to the virtual copy.

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- I edited a photo in LR Classic.

- Along the way, I created a virtual copy, where I changed some local edits.

- When I was satisfied with the result, I wanted to copy all settings from the virtual copy and paste it onto the original photo, so I could delete the virtual copy.

- Here, the problem happens: Settings are pasted, but some local edits (I identified spot removal and radial filter, but didn't check the location of every single local adjustment) are pasted in the wrong position or with the wrong dimensions.

- I made sure to select EVERYTHING in the Copy/Paste dialog.

- I have encountered the same bug some weeks ago with another image, where local edits (in that case a brush adjustment) were pasted in a slightly wrong position.

If needed, I can of course provide screenshots of the edits in the correct and wrong places.

Technical details:

- Both edited images were *.ARW files from the Sony A7 III

- Adobe Lightroom Classic 10.2 (Build 202103041821-226a1211)

- macOS 11.2.3 (Big Sur) on a MacBook Pro Mid 2014

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I have noticed since this latest update (10.2 Build 202103041821-226a1211) that if you draw a graduated filter with an non cropped, non rotated image, then rotate the image, copy and paste the settings to another non cropped, non rotated image, the graduated filter moves to where the graduated filter ends up on the cropped and rotated image.

Rather than keeping the graduated filter in the same place in relation to the original image size, Lightroom is now orienting the copied graduated filter to where the edge of the image is after being cropped or rotated. This is very inconvenient especially when editing many images and you want the graduated filters to stay in the same place in relation to the original image size as it used to be.

With this as it is, you can end up with huge graduated filters that will keep getting larger and larger depending on how you crop or rotate images.

I'm going to figure out how to go back to the previous update until this issue is resolved. I have uploaded a screen recording showing what is happening for additional information.

My Computer info is:

OS: Big Sur Version 11.0.1

Processor 2.3 GHz 8 core intel i9

Memory: 16GB 2267 MHz DDR4

Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 5600M 8 GB

RikkFlohr: Inactive

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This is a known issue and we have a bug filed for it. Thank you for the report.

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I’ve had this problem for a long time too. Looking forward to seeing the replies.

Todd Shaner

Legend

Sorry for the confusion. That was a response to prioritize bug fixes over new features. The example given is the LR 9.2 change to the Default Develop settings (Raw Defaults) listed as a new feature. That is NOT a new LR Classic feature, but in fact was done to enable adding that capability to the whole LR ecosystem (LR Desktop, Mobile & Web).

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Yves-CH

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Mais que fait cette remarque dans ce fil de question, ici il s'agit d'un problème avec la fonction Transformation et le filtre circulaire qui ne tourne pas avec la transformation ????

But what does this remark in this question thread, here it is a problem with the Transformation function and the circular filter which does not rotate with the transformation ????

Yves Crausaz, Suisse, retraité actif dans le monde de la photo et des arts graphiques.

Todd Shaner

Legend

Thanks Rikk–Much appreciated. I was afraid that was the case and now understand the need to change the current 'Default Develop Settings' interface. The release notes do not state that and in fact in insinuate it is a new feature. "With this release, we have added the ability to easily configure default settings for raw images in Lightroom Classic."
It would have helped if that was explained in more detail in the release notes AND if the 9.2 installer contained a subroutine to automatically create and assign camera specific presets for the Camera Raw Defaults based on the user's current settings (if present). Doing that AFTER the 9.2 update is much more difficult since there's no way of invoking and then reading the original defaults (i.e. Reset button). I think that caught a lot users off-guard, self included. Also the ability to create ISO dependent default settings is now much more difficult and requires manually editing the presets with a text editor.
I don't use ISO dependent default settings and creating new presets for my five camera models wasn't that difficult. I have a 2nd system still running LR 9.1, which made it easier to record and copy over my default develop settings to new presets for my Raw Defaults. For may other users that's not the case!

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Yves-CH

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J'ai enfin compris le problème, Fonction "Transformation / Rotation manuelle", pareil pour moi sur macOS 10.15.3, LR Classic 9.2 et CameraRaw 12.2.

I finally understood problem, Function ' Transform / manual Rotation ', the similar for me on macOS 10.15.3, LR Classic 9.2 and CameraRaw 12.2.

Yves Crausaz, Suisse, retraité actif dans le monde de la photo et des arts graphiques.

Rikk Flohr_Photography

@1654796, A note about the Raw Defaults feature work currently underway specifically referring to your comment “New features added such as the recent 9.2 'Raw Default Settings' changes can wait!”

Raw Defaults is a desired feature not only in Lightroom Classic but across the breadth of Adobe Photography Products. In order to deploy to additional clients in future updates, work had to be done to Camera Raw to prepare for deployment in the Lightroom Ecosystem. Unfortunately the existing Lightroom Classic deployment of default edit settings was not compatible. To eventually deploy across the Ecosystem, it was necessary to modify Lightroom Classic in sync with Camera Raw.

That said, feedback about functionality and UI are always welcome -but probably not best discussed deep in a thread about a Radial Filter bug.

I reviewed the notes on the bug and it does not appear to be an oversight as you suspected. The rotation is actually happening but happening wrongly and differently depending upon the location of the Radial on the image. I have tickled the bug a bit to see if we can get it bumped in priority - but,as you say, I am the messenger.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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