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mclynn
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October 5, 2023
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Sent image to Photoshop, altered it, & saved it & got weird result in LR.

  • October 5, 2023
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What the heck? I sent this .psd file (see attachment) from Lightroom (12.5) to Photoshop (25.0.0) choosing “Edit Original”; in PS, I extended the border on the left and top with the crop tool, then asked generative fill to extend the background and it filled it in with more of the gray — did an admirable job. I merged that layer with the background layer and saved it, which sent it back to Lightroom which showed this weird version — in PS, the image looked normal.

To see if this was what the file really looked like, I went to the file in the OS, clicked on it, then pressed the spacebar to enlarge it and saw what it should have looked like (note that the file names are identical so it is the same image).

The image in Lightroom is not what I saw in Photoshop after I completed the generative fill or I would have stopped right there & tried something else. What happened during the save process to give me this result?

In LR, before sending the image to PS, I had created a mask of the background. While in PS, the image looked the way it should have, but on saving it, the background mask seems to have been moved. Back in LR, the mask button has a red dot under it which I’ve never seen before. I clicked on the mask to activate it, then on the pin to try to move it back into its original position, but it will not move. Something is clearly wrong.

As a further test, I chose the weird looking image then Edit in PS> Edit Original to see how it looked in PS and it was perfectly normal, even though in LR, it looked weird. In PS, I saved it again and got the same weird version.

I then chose Edit in PS, then chose Edit a Copy with LR Adjustments and this time, the weird LR version opened with the weird version showing.

I’m using an iMac 2017 running Ventura 13.6.

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    Sean McCormack
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    Sean McCormackCommunity Expert
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    October 5, 2023

    The mask still thinks it's on the smaller image. There's no way for the mask to know there's an extended border. This would be expected behaviour. All I can recommend is to do the masking after the extension. 

     

    Try this: Make a tiny brush with Heal somewhere unimportant. Now, right click on the mask and choose Update AI Masks. 

    I wish this was just available, but it's not. 

    Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.
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    mclynnAuthor
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    October 5, 2023

    Well, Sean. I tried your suggestion, which did move the Background mask, but left several edges behind (see screenshot). I also noticed that the weird file also as a darker background than the original. I know I didn't do that in PS.

    I assumed that when I sent a file to PS, and flattened it as I did, that the masks would have been done away with. Apparently, that's not the case. I wonder if I had left the layers intact if it would have been okay.

    I think I'll go back and try it with Content Aware Fill instead to see what happens. Thanks for you input.

    Sean McCormack
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    Sean McCormackCommunity Expert
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    October 5, 2023

    I'd actually done the whole process and it worked for me based on what you described, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested it.

     

    If you Edit Original it sends the file with layers and no edits applied. You need to Edit a Copy with Lightroom Adjustments to bake the mask and settings in. Content aware fill will have exactly the same results on an Edit Original File because you're changing the file dimensions. 

    Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.
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