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chrisb35753520
Inspiring
March 18, 2024
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Slow rendering of item after clicking on filmstrip thumbnail

  • March 18, 2024
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Hello, I'm running lightroom classic on windows 11 pc with the i9-14900K Processor with a 4090 GPU and 64G of ram and lightroom runs soooooo slow.  like you click on a photo down below on the film strip area and it takes like 10 seconds or more to pull the photo.  The catalogue probably holds around 110,000 ish photos.  also making adjustments, there is a few second delay, for example, if you are raising or lowering exposure.  Another is exiting lightroom it takes a while for the pop up to appear to close out of the program.  anyone else experiencing this?  Thanks in advance!

    Correct answer chrisb35753520

    I think I may have found the solution.  After doing all of the suggested things to no avail, I searched hours and hours and found a reddit thread that had a solution with someone else with a high end pc but lightroom being super slow.  This worked for me.  I went to: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic. Then in that folder, I right clicked the lightroom.exe file and selected "Properties", I then went to "Compatibility" tab.  I then clicked on the "Change high DPI Settings" button.  From there I went to the bottom where it says "high DPI scaling override" and clicked checkbox for the "Override high DPI scaling behavior" and changed the dropdown to "Application".  I clicked OK then Apply.  I restarted lightroom and it is running normal now!  Thanks for eveyones help and kuddos to the random reddit stranger that posted the solution to this.

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    ndean66
    Participant
    July 13, 2024

    OMG chris35753520, I have been stuggling with this for almost 12 months. You are truly a lifsaver!

    chrisb35753520
    chrisb35753520AuthorCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    March 26, 2024

    I think I may have found the solution.  After doing all of the suggested things to no avail, I searched hours and hours and found a reddit thread that had a solution with someone else with a high end pc but lightroom being super slow.  This worked for me.  I went to: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic. Then in that folder, I right clicked the lightroom.exe file and selected "Properties", I then went to "Compatibility" tab.  I then clicked on the "Change high DPI Settings" button.  From there I went to the bottom where it says "high DPI scaling override" and clicked checkbox for the "Override high DPI scaling behavior" and changed the dropdown to "Application".  I clicked OK then Apply.  I restarted lightroom and it is running normal now!  Thanks for eveyones help and kuddos to the random reddit stranger that posted the solution to this.

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      rudolfl27731976
      Known Participant
      March 26, 2024

      wow, i did not expect it there. Now I'm curious wether I can get a performance improvement by doing this on my 4 year old windows laptop. I changed the setting exact as you described, but did not observe any change.
      Maybe your "slow" behaviour had to do with a combination of settings for screen resolution and scaling ... 
      Interesting finding ...
      Ruud

      chrisb35753520
      chrisb35753520Author
      Inspiring
      March 26, 2024

      Bummer, sorry to hear it wasn't something that helped you.  Yea, it was bizarre and no way would i have figured that one out.  hope you find a solution to your issues!  

        GoldingD
        GoldingD
        Legend
        March 20, 2024

        Based on the GPU, I think I can assume this is a desktop or workstation PC not a laptop or notebook, or all in one.

        That being said, it can be easily modified for GPU (yours as you know is just fine) RAM and internal hard drives, as well as external hard drives. If you had a laptop and some ancient under spec video controller, and say just 8GB of RAM, then basically up the creek without a paddle.

         

        So CPU, GPU, RAM, VRAM more than A-Ok.

         

        That all said leads to an inquiry about hard drives. Two possible issues, Free hard drive space for the catalog and associated previews, looking for at least 20% free, some say 25%. Lack of space for the catalog can slow LrC down. And location of Camera RAW CACHE, as on a Windows PC, the CACHE and the Paging file can compete in read/wrights, causing a small performance hit.

         

        1. That C drive, with the catalog on it, how much free space (%)?
        2. That Camera RAW CACHE, can it be on a different drive?

         

        • Note that the catalog can take advantage of being on your fastest hard drive
        • Note that the Camera RAW CACHE can take advantage of being on your fastest hard drive.
        • Note that their is no noticeable advantage of locating your photos on your fastest hard drive.
        • Note that locating your photos not on a connected hard drive, but to a network share will slow things down.

         

         

         

         

         

        chrisb35753520
        chrisb35753520Author
        Inspiring
        March 20, 2024

        thank you GoldingD for the response.  1) The lightroom catalogue AND RAW file locations are on the same external 12 TB drive with 9.6 TB free space remaining on that drive, so around 75% free space.  Its not my C drive.  2) Im not sure where the cache for the RAW cache would be located, how do i do that?

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        rudolfl27731976
        Known Participant
        March 20, 2024

        Hi Chris, just stepping with some advice. Please make sure that your Lightroom catalog is on your C-drive (SSD) and not external. This file needs to be accessed fast and very often (every click / modification you make to the picture is stored) so it is recommended to have the catalog on the fasted accessible drive in your system

        regards, Ruud 

        GoldingD
        GoldingD
        Legend
        March 19, 2024

        Also, in a reply, please post a screenshot from LrC of your /preferences/performance/ tab.

         

        chrisb35753520
        chrisb35753520Author
        Inspiring
        March 19, 2024
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        Ian Lyons
        Community Expert
        Ian LyonsCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        March 19, 2024

        I see that you have three displays connected although it's not clear whether LrC is actually using the secondary displays. Even if they're not being used by LrC, the mere fact that LrC  sees them can result in a performance hit. I submitted a bug for this some time back, but it hasn't been fixed yet. 

         

        It's also important to note that GPU acceleration only works with the primary display (i.e. the display that the main LrC application is displayed on).  The secondary displays will only utilise the GPU for display, which can often lead to the secondary displays being out of sync with the primary. This is most obvious when using fullscreen mode.  Another example of where lags can occur would be when editing on the primary display with the secondary configured to display the image in loupe view.

         

        BTW, your screenshot indicates that you've configured the GPU settings to force accelerated export. With your GPU card this hould not be necessary. Auto is the best option as it ensures that LrC only enables accelerated features that the self test carried out when launching LrC confirms are fully supported.

          GoldingD
          GoldingD
          Legend
          March 19, 2024

          Please post your System Information as Lightroom Classic (LrC) reports it. In LrC click on Help, then System Info, then Copy. Paste that information into a reply. Please present all information from first line down to and including Plug-in Info. Info after Plug-in info can be cut out as that is just so much dead space to us non-Techs and it takes up vast amounts of scroll space making the reply less readable and less likely that others will bother with your post.

          chrisb35753520
          chrisb35753520Author
          Inspiring
          March 19, 2024
          Lightroom Classic version: 13.2 [ 202402141005-bf1aeb84 ]
          License: Creative Cloud
          Language setting: en
          Operating system: Windows 11 - Business Edition
          Version: 11.0.22631
          Application architecture: x64
          System architecture: x64
          Logical processor count: 32
          Processor speed: 3.1GHz
          SqLite Version: 3.36.0
          CPU Utilisation: 0.0%
          Built-in memory: 65276.9 MB
          Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 5480.8MB / 24142.0MB (22%)
          Real memory available to Lightroom: 65276.9 MB
          Real memory used by Lightroom: 2310.0 MB (3.5%)
          Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 8305.5 MB
          GDI objects count: 806
          USER objects count: 2770
          Process handles count: 2413
          Memory cache size: 14.3MB
          Internal Camera Raw version: 16.2 [ 1763 ]
          Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
          Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
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          Camera Raw real memory: 1125MB / 65276MB (1%)
           
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          dj_paige
          dj_paige
          Legend
          March 18, 2024

          Make sure you have the latest Studio driver (not game driver) for your GPU.

          chrisb35753520
          chrisb35753520Author
          Inspiring
          March 19, 2024

          I just changed it, although, i feel it is slightly faster, it still isn't great.  I will check it next time i take some more photos which will be the end of the week.  thanks for the reply!

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