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cwphoto21
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February 3, 2020
Question

User Presets not showing up consistently

  • February 3, 2020
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Hi All,

I've racked the internet looking for a solution on this and have tried a number of suggestions.

 

I've created a base preset that I would like to apply to selected images. That preset is not showing up in my preset panel despite being visible in the finder. I have seen and tried the 'Camera Raw > Settings > User Preset' solution that has worked for some, but this has not solved the issue. Similarly, I have tried toggling the 'Store preset with Catalogue' option, but again to no avail. 

 

The strange thing is that I can and have successfully made a preset that has correctly displayed in the panel, but for some reason the same process does not work with other images in the same catalogue. 

 

In order to help anyone reading this to understand the situation I have created a short video of the screen (with audio). 

 

iMac - late 2012

Mojave 10.14.5

Lightroom Classic v. 9.1

Camera Raw v. 12.1

 

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johnrellis
johnrellis
Legend
February 4, 2020

Glad you got it resolved. I think there's a LR bug that let you apply the JPEG Monochrome profile to raws.  If you see it happening again and can reproduce how that happens, it would be worthwhile filing a bug report in the official Adobe feedbak forum, where Adobe wants bug reports:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom

 

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johnrellis
johnrellis
Legend
February 3, 2020

"So how is it that your .NEF is showing Profile: Monochrome?  This might be related to your preset issue."

 

One way this could happen: Take a .NEF and rename it to have extension .JPG. Import that file into LR, which treats it as a JPEG (which it is) rather than a raw (which it isn't).  In Develop, change Treatment to Black & White, and it will have Profile: Monochrome. 

 

Is it possible that your .NEF file is actually a JPEG that got accidentally renamed somehow?  If you upload the .NEF and its .XMP sidecar, we can quickly determine that too.

 

 

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cwphoto21Author
Participant
February 4, 2020

Solved!

 

The issue was indeed that the profile was 'Monochrome' and not 'Adobe Monochrome'. I can't say why Lightroom assigned the jpeg profile over the proper one, but I can say that every image that I had tried to use as a reference for the preset had that incorrect 'Monochrome' profile. 

 

For some reason clicking 'black and white' at the top of the 'Basic' editing panel changed it to 'Monochrome' rather than the proper 'Adobe Monochrome' or 'Adobe Black and White' profile. I have since tried to replicate this, but have not been able to do so.

 

Here is a video:

https://youtu.be/QbqGiqrnXuE

 

Again, thank you very much for your help with this! Much appreciated.

johnrellis
johnrellis
Legend
February 3, 2020

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Excellent screen recording (if only more users would post them!). 

 

The recording shows the problem occurring with .NEFs with Treatment: Black & White. But there's something very curious -- they are shown as Profile: Monochrome:

 

 

My understanding is that when you set Treatment to Black & White for a raw, you get Profile: Adobe Monochrome. Profile: Monochrome only shows up non-raws (e.g. JPEGs).   So how is it that your .NEF is showing Profile: Monochrome?  This might be related to your preset issue.

 

To troubleshoot this: Select that .NEF and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Upload the .NEF and it's accompanying .XMP sidecar to Dropbox or similar and post the sharing link here.  We can see if the preset issue happens in other LR configurations and dig into what's going on with the Monochrome profile showing for a raw file.

 

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