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Participant
May 31, 2024
Question

Virtual Copy thumbnail of PSD file not updating

  • May 31, 2024
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Hi,

I've had this issue for a long time now. I often make Virtual Copies of my PSD files so that I can give them a colour tweak in LRC before printing.

However, I notice that if I make another edit to the original in PS, then the Virtual Copy's thumbnail doesn't update, despite leaving my Mac on overnight or restarting. If the Virtual Copy is created and never edited in LR, then its thumbnail updates just fine! It also decides to update if I edit it some more in LR and then return to grid view. It's like the Virtual Copy either needs to be competely untouched or edited a few times for it to receive updates from its original. Just one edit is too much/not enough. It's driving me insane.... 

I've attached a video to show how the Virtual Copy that already had a Quick Develop edit only updates once I've cropped it.

 

LRC 13.3

My Mac is a MacBookPRO M1 chip Sonoma 14.5, but this happened on my old 2015 laptop too.

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6 replies

Participant
May 31, 2024

Purging Camear Raw cache did nothing, but thanks for the suggestion anyway. I tried exporting my Virtual Copy and at least it exports ok with the newest Photoshop edits. So it's just the Library thumbnail that's a problem.

GoldingD
Legend
May 31, 2024

Oh that is odd, perhaps the Library previews are having an issue. But, apparently, when you enter the Develop Module to accomplish an edit, the preview you see, prior to an edit, is wrong (hence the Develop preview found in the Camera RAW CACHE is wrong, just like the Library previews)

 

Curious, what happens if you purge the Camera RAW CACHE?

Participant
May 31, 2024

Maybe it's just my bad luck. In any case I can get around it by always doing a little LR edit of the Virtual Copy and then undoing it, that triggers the thumbnail to update itself.

GoldingD
Legend
May 31, 2024

My bad, I do not get the bug if working with a PSD file. My original but edited reply started with a Fuji RAF file, not a PSD, and that did not function in the way you are describing. Then I thought, oops, PSD file, could be different. When I purposely created a PSD file, then edited it both in LrC and PS, then created a virtual of it, then when I again went into PS, the virtual upon returning from PS did change.

 

So, an issue on your rig.

 

Perhaps a more PS capable member should enter in on this, My PS edits are very limited to whatever LrC does not accomplish or does not accomplish well (the big one being removing some unwanted object in a photo, this has just changed with LrC v 13.3)

Participant
May 31, 2024

Thanks for testing out my scenario, interesting that you get the same problem. I think it's a bug, but not sure how to get through to the Adobe folks about it.

GoldingD
Legend
May 31, 2024

Ok,I edited my original reply as it occured to me tht I should use a PSD file for my experiments, and what do you know, using a PSD file changes everything. Looks like you do have a problem.

 

 

When you create a virtual copy, the edits in the original as seen in the history panel apply to the virtual copy. Incidentally, if you select a particular history state, then that state and the ones below (before) it are applied (not the newer or higher ones ) (that a trick you might want to use).

 

Ok, fine, the virtual copy is created

 

Now, if you edit the original with some additional mods, it does not transfer those to the virtual copy. Nope, Nada, Does not happen, never did.

 

Same for re-entering PS with the original photo, and adding some additional edits. That virtual copy is not touched. This is as designed. And it is not going to pass a request for change (an Idea).

 

P.S. what about selecting the virtual copy, and attempting to edit it in PS? Well, I just ran a test on that, At first it looks like the original is transfered to PS as the name of the file in PS reflects that (not the virtual). However, I retested, this time with some obvious LrC edits in the virtual (not in the original) and yes, the virtual version (despite file name) shows up