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lukass21849787
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October 30, 2021
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Edit in Photoshop sometimes fails to return image to Lightroom

  • October 30, 2021
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When using the edit in photoshop function in lightroom the picture opens in photoshop and can be edited, but sometimes the edit is not imported into lightroom after saving and closing the photoshop document (progress bar "importing to lightroom" doesn't even show up). From what I can tell by now it appears to happen if the document is open for more than 10 or 20 minutes. This makes the bug even more frustrating as the edits are permanently lost and it only happens for complex edits.

Found on Macbook 14" M1 Pro running in ARM64 mode.

LR 5.0 / PS 23.0

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    Stephenjc
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    January 1, 2022

    Has this been acknowledged as a problem? This is happening 95% of the time for me now.

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      Stephenjc
      Known Participant
      December 9, 2021

      I have the same problem using the new MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro. 

      it seems to me that the first time I do an edit in Photoshop, the photo will return to LR. If I then do another edit in PS, different image, then the problem occurs. I can't reproduce the problem reliably but the problem reliably returns. 

      my workaround is to open the Lightroom package, and retrieve the PS file from the "temporaryedits" folder 

       

       

        Rikk Flohr_Photography
        Community Manager
        Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
        October 31, 2021

        I've tried reproducing this a couple of times now and can't get it to fail on my end.  If you can come up with repeatable instructions to do this, I would be interested in trying again.

        Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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        lukass21849787Author
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        November 2, 2021

        Ok, I found a way of reproducing it:

        I'm using a raw nef image from a Nikon Z5 (4016 x 6016 PX, 30.8 MB), my offline drive is disconnected (not sure if this makes a difference though) and I'm using a 14" macbook pro with M1 Pro chip running Mac OS 12.0.1.

        LR version 5.0

        PS version 23.0 

        Both running in apple silicon mode.

        1. Select Photo, right click and choose "Edit in Photoshop"
        2. In photoshop duplicate the background layer
        3. Add adjustment layer (I used hue/saturation)
        4. Duplicate background layer again and move it to top layer, rotate layer and reduce opacity
        5. Add adjustment layer (I used hue/saturation)
        6. Save using default tiff settings (ZIP compression, interleaved, IBM PC, RLE, pyramid disabled)
        7. Close document in PS
        8. Return to LR only to find the "import from photoshop" progress bar doesn't even appear and all "saved" changes have been lost

         

        I also tried with no compression and macintosh instead of IBM PC encoding but doesn't make a difference. I don't know if it's somehow related to the total file size, I've found these kinds of images to be enormous when saved as PSD. Maybe there's a compression issue or something, but opening a raw image from LR in PS duplicating the background layer a couple of times and saving as PSD routinely returns the "PSD files cannot be larger than 2gb" error to me, but it's a 24mp image with a source size of 30mb. - just seems weird to me... I know PSD files are huge but this seems a bit excessive...  

        Rikk Flohr_Photography
        Community Manager
        Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
        November 2, 2021

        I followed your steps as closely as I could and the image arrived back in Lightroom in under 4 seconds.

         

        When you say: 

          "Save using default tiff settings"
          Are you performing Save or Save As in PS?
          Also:
          Are you sure you don't have any filters involved? On my side I filtered for a big raw file so I could more closely duplicate your steps. When the file came back it wasn't visible because it no longer met the "raw" criteria.
          Re: PSD files - you should not be able to save as PSD in this operation - Tiff or nothing is the format. I am not sure what you are saying here. Not related but a 30 MB raw file turns easily into a 80 MB tiff. Each additional layer and each additional layer mask adds ~80 mb also.  With Panos and Upressed photos it is easy to reach 2 GB. 
        Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
        josephlavine
        Community Expert
        josephlavineCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        October 31, 2021

        Are you trying to make the "round trip" from Lightroom Classic or the cloud-based Lightroom? I ask because LR 5.0 refers to the cloud-based version.

        warmly/j

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        lukass21849787Author
        Participating Frequently
        November 2, 2021

        Yes, the cloud LR 5.0 which was released just a couple of days ago... - and to PS 23.0 which was just released as well... and to make matters even worse I'm also on the new 14" macbook pro which was also released just a couple of days ago... Almost feel like a beta tester 😄 

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          defaultv001rq3dad7f
          Participant
          December 7, 2021

          Same here!! I'm extremely frustrated.

           

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