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October 4, 2018
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Force full res image to laptop from cloud

  • October 4, 2018
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I am, like an awful lot of people, finding CC full of promise but even more full of frustration.

I have selected, from my 65,000 image Classic LRCAT, two subsets of images:


1) everything from 3 to 5 stars. This is some 6,500 images and has been synced from Classic to the cloud. These, I know, will be available to other devices as smart previews only, and that's just fine by me.

2) my picks, about 1,800 images. These I migrated to CC in full, so that they have slowly been syncing up to the cloud in full resolution.

My question is this: when, at a remote location, using an OSX rather than IOS device, and therefore running a full, logged in, desktop version of CC, I want to view one of the files in category 2) above at full resolution, WTF am I supposed to do? The only way I seem able to force the machine to load a full res version is to tell it to open the file in Photoshop. I would have thought that zooming to 1:1 would force a full res version to load to this local machine from the cloud. Failing that, I would have thought there would be, under a Menu item or a right click on the image, or FFS SOMETHING, a way to make a full res version load. After all I uploaded it and paid for the storage specifically so that I could do this. But oh no: no sign of a way to do it, not way of finding a good Help resource and the usual CC annoyance of being made to feel stupid because, no matter how many support pages I visit or videos I watch, the CC speciality is to make you uncertain about what is where and how to get it to where you want it.

So I am left with the familiar CC problem: loads of unexplained duplicates, no ability to do a simple and bleedin' obvious thing that any sane human would want to do and nowhere to find a quick answer.

I used to like the cloud until Adobe got their hands on it.

Any ideas?

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    Correct answer Jao vdL

    Rikk, thank you.

    From what you say, no one has really thought about this as a pro product - of course one wants to prioritise a file one is currently working on over a host of longer term syncing actions. I am also guessing that most of the testing of this stuff goes on in non-real-world bandwidth environments, which is why this issue hasn't already presented itself as vital. In any event, CC is clearly for the Selfie and Instagram crowd rather than having any serious ambitions to be a pro solution.

    The problem for Adobe now is that its cloud offering is for amateurs and its Pro offering (CC Classic) doesn't allow NAS or Cloud based location of LRCAT and original images files. So it has a pro solution for amateurs and an amateur solution for pros.

    That's my honest opinion.


    The problem for Adobe now is that its cloud offering is for amateurs and its Pro offering (CC Classic) doesn't allow NAS or Cloud based location of LRCAT and original images files. So it has a pro solution for amateurs and an amateur solution for pros.

    A lot of us actually share that opinion. LR CC is extremely far from being ready for real use - it can't even print! It is a fun toy to play with for shooting with your phone and doing light edits on an iPad that will sync back to your main Classic catalog. The best way to have a traveling catalog between different computers is still just to use a small external SSD drive with a Lightroom Classic catalog and images on it which is disappointing.

    Now this might be because my ecosystem is, one week after I set this up, still trying to Sync. That ties into a vast array of different issues: my main LRCAT has always been at home and there I have 30mbps internet and a week ago I set it to do two things:

    This is likely your issue indeed. Note that almost all broadband networks are very asymmetric and a typical 30 mbps internet only has 3 mbps upload bandwidth. A typical set of ten thousand raw images will take 180 hours (i.e. 7-8 days) to upload if you are able to saturate the upload constantly. Even broadband advertised as 350 mbps often only has 10 megabits upload speed. Sometimes even less.

    This is the real achilles heal of any cloud solution that is supposed to store raw images. The shear upload bandwidth limitations in real world situations make this really challenging.

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    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    October 5, 2018

    In Lightroom CC version 1.5 and later you have the ability to specify that an Album be stored locally.

    1. Create an Album and drop the 1800 images into the album.
    2. Right-click on the Album and select Store Album Locally from the context menu.
    3. Allow the images to sync back down from the cloud.
    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    timashleyAuthor
    Known Participant
    October 5, 2018

    Thanks Rikk, I am aware of that, However I must observe that if that is the only way of doing it, it makes CC utterly pointless for my use-case, which is not an unusual one.

    The entire point of putting this stuff in the cloud is so that when I move from home to my studio to rented studio to travel etc, I can access my key images in full resolution without carrying a hard drive with me. That means being able to do so from any computer I use to log into my CC account. I am not going to tell each and every computer to download an entire library of images: 1800 images is just a starter number - over time it could be several TB of images (which is presumably why Adobe offers the ability to purchase up to 10TB of cloud storage). So if 1800 images is just for starters, no one in their right mind is going to force each computer they use to download the entire library. It just isn't how a professional photographer would work. I currently run a desktop machine, two laptops and an iPad and iPhone and I need to be able to access full res on all of these, bar the iPhone, easily. That's surely the entire point?

    It is insanity to not just have a 'right click' option 'Force Download of Original' or something similar and is yet another example of how badly wrong this piece of software is going. It is bad enough that I can't store my Classic LRCAT in the cloud (without some very cludgy Dropbox possibilities that some people have learned to live with) but to introduce a cloud storage option that then combines the worst of the cloud and the desktop computing models takes a particular form of warped logic.

    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    October 5, 2018

    You could:

    Create an album with one photo and call it Full Res

    Right-click and set it to Store Album Locally.

    When ever you need a photo that is full-res, drag it to the album.

    When you are done, remove it from the album and normal purge logic will take over.

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org